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I wanted a do all bad weather rifle.....a Stanley claw hammer type of tool.
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Yup it is boring. It works. Nothing fancy. Reliable.
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Even better, the .30-270, aka, .30-03. Example of which I happen to own in Win '95 guise.
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I have four of them. I like the 06 a lot!
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It's anti American to not own at least one 30 06. Don't use much anymore, but it's my big gun for Elk!
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Beautiful Garand, Hanco!
I'll say this for it, after a lot of time lately with 7mm-08s, 6.5x55 and 6.5 Creedmoor (typically in light rifles) I really forgot how smoothly a 30-06 can shoot from a heavier gun. Talking Winchester 70 Sporter, not a monster but near 8 lbs before scoping. Same with a Husqvarna Mauser in a Boyd's Laminate stock.
Subjective for sure...but it was no killer to shoot. Mind you I am not chasing hot rod loads.
Plasticky lil rifles in the 7 lb range, YMMV.
But I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier, The last of Barrett's Privateers
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I’ve got five of them. But it isn’t the best choice for a rifle looney. Once you have one, there really isn’t much excuse to get anything else. It will kill just about anything, anywhere at just about any reasonable range.
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I wanted a do all bad weather rifle.....a Stanley claw hammer type of tool.
.3006 in a synth stock.
Yup it is boring. It works. Nothing fancy. Reliable. Believe or not can buy ammo anywhere as cheap as it can be had. Fixed it for you. MB
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
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My 30 06 is going to morph into a 338-06 this winter.
The way life should be.
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My 30 06 is going to morph into a 338-06 this winter. Which one?
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
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The late great Col. Townsend Whelen once said, "The 30-06 is never a mistake." That was a long time ago. Probably even before I was born. (1938) The point is I believe that statement still holds true. Powerful enough for North American big game and a good on most African game when push comes to shove. Modern premium bullets make it even better that in Col. Whelen's day.
I guess is I were to try and count back, most of the deer I've killed over 60+ years of hunting have been with the 30-6 and the .308 probably in second place. These's even some with the .270 and 30-30 in that pile of dead deer. I probably have more rifles in 30-06 in my collection than anything else which runs from .22 Hornet to the .416 Rigby. I've used the .270 a time or three and currently have a running love affair with the .35 Whelen for my elk hunts. Funny thing though. Regardless of whatever I take on a hunt, the back up rifle is usually something in 30-06. Paul B.
Our forefathers did not politely protest the British.They did not vote them out of office, nor did they impeach the king,march on the capitol or ask permission for their rights. ----------------They just shot them. MOLON LABE
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I do like this little tidbit, although easily outdone.. 223 w/ 75 HPBT 30-06 167 Scenar I don't know where you get that data....I push the 75's to 3k out of several 22" bolt guns. And that isn't the BC Lapua lists for the 167 Scenar. And why would I pick a 167 with a lower BC than the 155, and then shoot it at a weak speed? Why not pick the 155 and shoot it around 3k? No doubt about about it. That’s softball factory loaded stuff. The 167 Scenar is G7. I’ve still got a stash of handloaded 155’s, hard to beat in an ‘06. However, my days of riding a rockchucker are long behind me. Hmmm. Lapua lists the 167 as a .223 G7. I couldn't say which value is more accurate, because I don't shoot it.
I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.
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The three king's of big game cartridges IMO 1. 300 Win 2. 30-06 3. 308 Win Yeah, im a 30 cal whore but I will also say that the rifle itself is much more important than the particular cartridge its chambered in 👍.....Good hunting ....Hb
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That’s Brian Litz’s G7 number. Not enough to matter for a shortknocker anyway.
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You all really need to try the 7.62x63 and then watch yourself throw your 30-06 rifles in the trash Or try the .300 Whelen. BING ! BING ! grin Jerry
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It's anti American to not own at least one 30 06. Don't use much anymore, but it's my big gun for Elk!
Switch, I've said moren once "I feel it is UNAmerican" to not own a 30-06. I feel we OWE that to the G O C Grand Ole Cartridge. Jerry
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30-06, nothing more than one of the many the offspring of the 8 X 57...and almost as good as its parent. I've read that poppycock here a few Xs and YET have to find any documentation to verify it. The 8X57 is shorter TO START WITH than the 30-06. The 30-03 can be considered the parent cartridge but... Please supply a link to document your assertion. Jerry
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Meh, the 30-06 is a passing fad. It will disappear in a couple years..... Bob
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The THREE Greatest
270, 30-06, 7 mm Rem Mag.
Even I find it odd for MYSELF that it took SO LONG to fully understand the greatness of the 7 Rem Mag. I had a few when I was young and dismissed the round because I was 'infatuated' with the 300 WM. PERSONALLY, at 70 yo, I've come to place the 7 RM at the TOP of the heap. TO ME-- the virtue that elevates the 7 above the 06 is.... only... flatter trajectory while packing the payload. I have an 06 and always will but From Antelope--WT--Elk-- Moose--BROWN BEAR-- the 7 RM will cover all bases and NOT knock you down. ref. 458 Win ( Mr Phil) on the 30-06. Jerry
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I own eight 06's, and can hunt everything from squirrels to the big stuff. I handloadd and cast bullets for them too (something like two dozen moulds in my repertoire)- capable of everything from 100gr.'s at 1000fps to 220's at full snot. People who say the cartridge is boring obviously aren't exploring all the possibilities.
200 rounds in a day? No sweat. 200 150 grain cast loads at 1600fps wouldn't make a ten year old flinch.
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i read somewheres that us being on the receiving end of the 7x57 in the Spanish American War got us to taking the 7x57 case, making it longer, and necking it up to 30 caliber... and bingo the 30-03 with 220 round nose came about. paying attention to what others were doing, the fast and flat shooting German spitzers in 8mm got us to making pointy bullets and bingo 30-06 is born.
i think either Mule Deer or perhaps a Brian Pearce article from way back?
what i don't understand is why the 130 grain TTSX ain't a standard offering in 30-06 factory ammo... unless 30-06 shooters are dogs too old to try something different than 150 and up
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