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or hunting in the good old USA i'm getting the old itch again!

No pictures,but I have used my .404 on varmints.

You’re being way too modest.

Tell’em about your real varmint and bunny wabbit gun, your .460.

Don’t let that new, fancy .404 give your old standby a bad case of green eyed envy....

DF

Mooshoo I also use a .460 Wby for rabbits and I do have pictures.

Admitting right up front that Elks is the authority............the big bore Verminator........... I have knocked a few groundhogs down with my .375 Weatherby. Right in the same, approximate neighborhood as the Taylor and the Jeff. Terminal performance is predictable...........yet lacks the wow factor that one might initially think. My Swift with a 50 grain Ballistic Tip will next to tear a big groundhog in two when shot in the midsection.

This one was just over the 300 yard mark. 250 grain SGK leaving at just under 3100 fps.

Yoder,a .375 Wby is low end for groundhogs.

Just sayin'.

First rule.

Take enough gun.

DF

Yup.

Many years ago I used both the 378 and 460 for spotlight shooting kangaroos and of course that also involves rabbits. A 378 on a dry cold winter night shootig from the back of a landcruiser is definitely somethinhg else to behold.:)

Nothing big, but a 400gr Partition at 2400 fps will do all i'll ever need doing on any animal anywhere with a soft point bullet.

now that's is super cool!!

my big bore varminter's is a 1886 browning in 45/70,but i love seeing the nice big bores!

I traded my .404J before I got to shoot critters. I'd had shoulder surgery and decided I didn't need it. Shoulder healed up fine, could probalby handle it now.

My BPCR 45-70, shooting the TSX 250 at 2,550 fps is a hammer. That bullet has a HUGE hp and is deadly.

I once shot a small pig thru the chest at a hundred yds. That bullet blew lung tissue out the other side. The far rib cage had fracture marks radiating from the exit hole, much like a broken window. The rib cage must have been pushed far enough out to cause those fractures. Weird looking. DRT, of course.

That same load blew blood and lung tissue out the far side of a WT chest, taking out the top of the heart. A fire hose trail of blood for 15 yds to the piled up deer.

Pretty amazing performance and pretty accurate. Those big bores can be more accurate than some may think.

DF.

Which is exactly why I deferred to you. The .375 Wby is plenty capable of taking a large groundhog down. But I'd hate to have to take a frontal brain shot to stop a charge. That's when I want YOU over my shoulder with your super-mega jackwabbit whacker.

I can back you up Yoder. I have solids for the .375,.404 and my .460,you just in case the poop it's the fan.

.404 works just fine on deer





Shot a bobcat years ago with my .411 KDF Magnum, not pretty...

I am thinking of taking my .404 out coyote calling. Some places I call the shot will be under 100 yards,perfect for iron sights.

Next year take my .460 and .450 Howell out for coyotes.

I've used my 416 Taylor on African game on a warthog, waterbuck, kudu, zebra, buffalo. Here it's taken an elk and lots of white tails. In Africa I used a 400gr Swift A Frame and here It's fed a diet of 325gr Hawk bullets. I love it you can eat right up to the hole.

That's inspiring!

A little cat I 416'd (Remington...)

this is some cool stuff thank you! keep it going i love the story's and rifles

You guys are inspiring. Makes me wanna drag out my 416 for rabbits and other small game

I've killed coyote with my previous 416 Rem Custom CZ550, 350 gr Speer Hot Core @ around 2550 fps mv. Range about 60 feet. Entrance side was great. Off side shoulder was Gone. Some ribs were Gone. Heart and lungs were mostly gone.
Couple months later I shot a fox with my 9 3 x64 Brenneke. 250 gr X bullet @ around 2800 fps mv. Range about the same , 60 to 70 feet away. It wasn't pretty. But not anywhere near as bad as the 416.

I've used the 416 Rigby with 400 grain solids on a prairie dog. Over penetration was a problem. I'm selling that Rigby.

thank you, you guys know how to do it with the big bores, i think the 416 Taylor might just be the ticket!

Do the animals compare notes?

Only in the freezer or animal heaven LOL. I love my Taylor the critters not so much.

Call me a wimp I have only used the 458 Win. on jack rabbits. Between those two the 404 has more panache and a little more diameter if you ever get charged by a rabbit. The Jeffrey does it's thing at a lower pressure too. Both mediums are more versatile than anything bigger although the 45s can be loaded down they just won't have as flat a trajectory as the mediums. I also find that the 375-404 range is my upper limit for fun shooting or bench sessions with full house loads.

It would come down to what action and components you have on which is the better way to go. A few more bullet options for the 416 but the 404 has enough good ones. Components would be cheaper for the Taylor but I usually don't worry about this too much. I think re-sale would be better for the Jeffrey but again not something I get too concerned about.

Wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of either.