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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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He endorses same sex unions and wants a civil union law so that they are legally covered.

Didn’t go so far as to endorse same sex marriages via the RC church and didn’t mention anything about male priests unions or female nun unions.

As Archie Bunker would say, “You Catholics think that guy is inflammable”.


I'm not Catholic but was shocked when I first saw this because I thought he was condoning same-sex marriages which would go against Catholic belief. After taking a look at it, I think it's a great idea and what should've been done a LONG time ago. If somebody wants to have a legal partner in their life so they can can be covered by family insurance or help make those tough decisions after a life-threatening incident or pass along their inheritance after they pass, they should be able to do so regardless of sexual preference. I also think this helps separate that need/issue from the desire to be "married" which is an institution that I feel should be left to those in the church.



Opinions do vary but The Bible is clear on the matter.

Of course nowadays what does Scripture have at all to do with the Universal Church, one could reasonably ask ?


I'm no authority on the Bible. What does scripture say about a legal civil union?


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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There are no levels of sin.
Then why is there a sin that can't be forgiven?


What sin is that?


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Originally Posted by Nebraska
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Originally Posted by 16bore
There are no levels of sin.
Then why is there a sin that can't be forgiven?


What sin is that?

sin against the Holy Spirit


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Originally Posted by Nebraska
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Nebraska
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
He endorses same sex unions and wants a civil union law so that they are legally covered.

Didn’t go so far as to endorse same sex marriages via the RC church and didn’t mention anything about male priests unions or female nun unions.

As Archie Bunker would say, “You Catholics think that guy is inflammable”.


I'm not Catholic but was shocked when I first saw this because I thought he was condoning same-sex marriages which would go against Catholic belief. After taking a look at it, I think it's a great idea and what should've been done a LONG time ago. If somebody wants to have a legal partner in their life so they can can be covered by family insurance or help make those tough decisions after a life-threatening incident or pass along their inheritance after they pass, they should be able to do so regardless of sexual preference. I also think this helps separate that need/issue from the desire to be "married" which is an institution that I feel should be left to those in the church.



Opinions do vary but The Bible is clear on the matter.

Of course nowadays what does Scripture have at all to do with the Universal Church, one could reasonably ask ?


I'm no authority on the Bible. What does scripture say about a legal civil union?


I was speaking of and on the same sex marriage issues. That’s pretty clear in Scripture and of the acts leading to same sex marriage.

Apologies if I misled.


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Originally Posted by sse
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Originally Posted by 16bore
There are no levels of sin.
Then why is there a sin that can't be forgiven?


What sin is that?

sin against the Holy Spirit



Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Mt 12:31: Therefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.


It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Good Job J G. !!
There it is !

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For someone who ? supposedly heads ? the “Christian Catholic” church
the DOPE doesn’t know much about the Bible ! !

And he’s not the only leader of “supposedly” christian “ churches”.

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Originally Posted by jwall
For someone who ? supposedly heads ? the “Christian Catholic” church
the DOPE doesn’t know much about the Bible ! !

And he’s not the only leader of “supposedly” christian “ churches”.

SAD

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Not all but many have adopted the credo, “A changing church for a changing world”.

No rudder on their ships and their Captains are AWOL. They’re simply set adrift.


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The United Methodist Church is not so pure in this regard.


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The United Methodist Church is not so pure in this regard.


The baby outgrew the mama there. Looking like they will have a split.


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If that is what it takes.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
If that is what it takes.


Read that a while back, Wabi. The movement to split is driven by the Traditionalists within the UMC.

A split is the answer to many of the problems within Christian Churches. But with properties and structures owned by the Diocese, ergo, Roman Catholic and Episcopal, the fight comes down to a real estate money war which is why those members just tend to seek spirituality elsewhere.


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Complex in our case, we are merging with the Presbyterian church.


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The Pope kicked God to the curb 50 years ago when he accepted Karl Marx as his savior.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
... a drug crazed dimocrap is breaking in and she has the kids run and hide and he gets in and asks if there is anyone else in the house and she says there isnt, has she sinned by lying?

I hear ya’. And I know where you’re comin’ from. MOST lies are done for self advancement, greed, or other selfish reasons, etc., but some ‘are’ done at least with the intention of protecting others, their reputations or physical selves. I think our Creator knows what’s in our hearts, and He knows our motivations.


If you trust your Gods will why would you need
to lie when there are other options?
... by lying to advance one's own selfish will
(over God's) one fails miserably on two counts.

When are hypocrite christians going to stop
bullchitting the world when simple cold fact is
they prefer Glock and lies over honesty and God.


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.. Lying is a sin, and separates us from God... Sin separates us from God. Period.


So when there's a home invader and one might
need God the most, there are christians who will
do something to separate themselves from God.




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Originally Posted by antlers
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The Old Testament.. The Law.. was specific about homosexuality.
The Old Testament.. The Law.. was also specific about adultery, a woman not being a virgin on the night of her wedding, taking God’s name in vain, and rebelling against one’s parents...ALL of which required violators to be put to death.
You need to read this.
https://media.ascensionpress.com/20...tween-ceremonial-judicial-and-moral-law/


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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by jaguartx
... a drug crazed dimocrap is breaking in and she has the kids run and hide and he gets in and asks if there is anyone else in the house and she says there isnt, has she sinned by lying?

I hear ya’. And I know where you’re comin’ from. MOST lies are done for self advancement, greed, or other selfish reasons, etc., but some ‘are’ done at least with the intention of protecting others, their reputations or physical selves. I think our Creator knows what’s in our hearts, and He knows our motivations.


If you trust your Gods will why would you need
to lie when there are other options?
... by lying to advance one's own selfish will
(over God's) one fails miserably on two counts.

When are hypocrite christians going to stop
bullchitting the world when simple cold fact is
they prefer Glock and lies over honesty and God.





Preach it Brother Starman !!!!


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by antlers
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The Old Testament.. The Law.. was specific about homosexuality.
The Old Testament.. The Law.. was also specific about adultery, a woman not being a virgin on the night of her wedding, taking God’s name in vain, and rebelling against one’s parents...ALL of which required violators to be put to death.
You need to read this.
https://media.ascensionpress.com/20...tween-ceremonial-judicial-and-moral-law/
The Old Testament (referred to by jwall) says what it says. Are you denying that...? Specifically, are you denying that adultery, a woman not being a virgin on the night of her wedding, taking God’s name in vain, and rebelling against one’s parents are NOT punishable by death as the Old Testament says they are...just as it says that homosexuality is punishable by death...?


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Just one in a LONG list of DENYERS of God's Word.

Rom 3:.. What if some do not believe, does that make the faith of God vain?

God forbid. Let God be true but every man a LIAR.


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jaguartx,
Regarding our discourse on this topic, Egyptian midwives did lie to Pharoah in order to save male Hebrew babies. And God dealt well with those midwives.


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