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Looks like Henry is bringing out the 350 Legend and the 450 earsplittenloudenboomer.

https://www.henryusa.com/firearm-category/new-models/

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Don’t understand why most of the .450s are wearing 16” barrels. A 20 or 22” with a decent contour would make the brakes unnecessary. Saw one special edition RAR with a 22”.


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The 450 has a 22'' bbl.

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/

Sorry Pappy. I didn't read your post correctly. You said "most" and I didn't see that.

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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
The 450 has a 22'' bbl.

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/

Sorry Pappy. I didn't read your post correctly. You said "most" and I didn't see that.


Didn’t see that .450 in your other post. That’s more better for big Midwestern deer. At that price, it wouldn’t break the bank for an occasional foray to OH or IA, and ain’t as oogly as some of the other ones. A SS should offer some interesting handloading options too with all the .451-.452 bullets out there. From what I’ve seen online, the .45/70 version is pretty sporty on the back end, and I’m getting soft in my “extended middle age”.

My cousin used a borrowed RAR in OH to slay a humdinger out of a ground blind. 12 yards! Kaboom Flop.


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I would likely stay away from the 45-70 in a light rifle like the Henry. I suspect the 450 Bushmaster will be sporty enough for me. I prefer to stay away from heavy recoiling rifles, if possible.


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Originally Posted by mag410
Another vote for .357 Maximum. Lots of good .357 bullets out there, not so many 9mm (.355) hunting bullets.

Winchester's choice to use 9mm bullets in the .350 Legend was an economic decision, so they could use the 9mm presses to make the Legend bullets.


WOW! I had to login and speak up on this. Crazy talk. The quote story about winchester needing to use 9mm dies, when they make 357 revolver bullets, baloney!

The 350 Legend uses .357 bullets, exactly the same diameter as 357 mag and 357 max. That is 9.1mm in metric units.

It might have been nice if i were 358 and then it could be remad out to some better 35 caliber rifle rounds. Not a big deal. Just saying that is how I would have gone




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Factory 350 Legend ammo is .355" in diameter.


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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
Factory 350 Legend ammo is .355" in diameter.


Hmmm. I looked up SAAMI spec before posting and it stated 0357. Re reading the tolerance is actually 0354min 0.357max. I know I could never be wrong, I check a couple vendors websites and Hornady does publish the bullet diameter at 0.355. What the heck!

Damn, I hate being wrong! Well, at least I could enjoy Pappy's avatar.

And the heck with the 350 Legend. A legend in Winchesters mind.

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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
Factory 350 Legend ammo is .355" in diameter.


Hmmm. I looked up SAAMI spec before posting and it stated 0357. Re reading the tolerance is actually 0354min 0.357max. I know I could never be wrong, I check a couple vendors websites and Hornady does publish the bullet diameter at 0.355. What the heck!

Damn, I hate being wrong! Well, at least I could enjoy Pappy's avatar.

And the heck with the 350 Legend. A legend in Winchesters mind.

Don't worry about that. I was unsure of the diameter until about 3 weeks ago.


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But can you sling 357 bullets down it? Everything 'reads' 357, regardless of what factory ammo is.

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I was to embarrassed to ask and opted to search out some reviews. The whole situation seems to be a steaming pile of dung. It seems, and here, I am only going by what I read yesterday, some combinations of guns and factory ammo are inaccurate. That is beyond the normal range of a gun having certain likes and dislikes. There was one very accurate rifle reviewed, which used undersized bore. By definition a bore of 356 or 0.3555 would be unsafe with 357 jacketed bullets at rifle pressures..

Here is the stink. A company like Ruger is legal and morally bound to rifle a barrel no smaller than 357. The SAAMI spec is the bore cannot be under 357. It could be 0.3575 for instance. And that is probably typical.

Hornady has decided to make (and spec) bullets at 355. I assume this is to work with the undersized barrels. That 355 is a max so actual Hornady bullets might be 0.3545 or a little less but never over 355. Winchester/Olin is not so good and bullets measure down to 0.353. Never over 0.355.

This is the single shot forum and we can load any bullet that fits. If you have a Henry, you need to do a chamber cast and determine what fits that gun. Does Henry provide an undersized bore that works with factory ammo, or a legal bore that meets SAAMI? If the bore is tight, then expect a tight chamber. That could be very dangerous if the neck of the ammo cannot release the bullet!! Now, what are the reloading die makers supposed to do? What is PPU and CZ expected to make of this luney tunes?

This is my take on things. As you can see, I could be wrong. It stinks, real bad. Now it is too late to make it right.

The irony .355 is not even legal in some special zones! Again, my reading. I am not in any zone.

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Early on, I read that .355 was picked for manufacturing reasons. Don’t know for certain, but I doubt that reloading convenience was a consideration when they dreamed this up. Most likely it’s primary market isn’t rifle cranks, but rather deer hunters. Handloaders will be better served with a Max, IMO, but the path to one of those is a bit more troublesome.

IF I wanted one, I’d find out what the barrel on rifle I wanted was actually bored, and act accordingly.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
The 450 has a 22'' bbl.

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/

Sorry Pappy. I didn't read your post correctly. You said "most" and I didn't see that.


Didn’t see that .450 in your other post. That’s more better for big Midwestern deer. At that price, it wouldn’t break the bank for an occasional foray to OH or IA, and ain’t as oogly as some of the other ones. A SS should offer some interesting handloading options too with all the .451-.452 bullets out there. From what I’ve seen online, the .45/70 version is pretty sporty on the back end, and I’m getting soft in my “extended middle age”.

My cousin used a borrowed RAR in OH to slay a humdinger out of a ground blind. 12 yards! Kaboom Flop.

I wouldn't worry about the cost of the rifle, deer tag in Iowa by itself is $644.

The 350 legend is legal in Iowa and Ohio.


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