Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire The Pope Sez,,,,

If he could produce a magic basket of bread to
feed the multitude, 40 rounds from a wheelgun
would be child's play..

How good is the “general welfare” of families when over 50% of first marriages end in divorce, and an even greater percentage of second marriages end in divorce, and an even still greater percentage of third marriages end in divorce...? And NONE of those failures has anything to do with “dignifying sodomy.” Giving these people the ability to provide for their “general welfare” in the ways that Nebraska mentioned above, while not infringing on your “general welfare” in any way whatsoever, seems right.

The failures aren't part & parcel of virtue. The fact that people don't live up to the virtue being promoted in no way invalidates the attempt to promote virtue. Promoting vice does not make that vice into a virtue.
If you really want to make the ignorant argument that people's failures to live up to the ideal invalidate the ideal, we could pretend that gay "marriage" is a virtue and start comparing divorce rates, domestic violence numbers and infidelity, etc with real marriages. You won't like the numbers though, because sodomy loses on every count.
Another erroneous assumption that you make is that engaging in vice is somehow in the "general welfare" of homosexuals. Christ didn't condemn sodomy for just some people, He condemned it for everyone.

No He didn’t. He said “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” Jesus ‘fulfilled’ it (the law), now it’s over and done with. Jesus came to fulfill all that was written in the Law and the Prophets. All of it was pointing to Him. He accomplished what the Law required. All of the promises of God in the Law and the Prophets have been fulfilled in Jesus. The law was kept perfectly by Jesus. And all of its penalties against God’s sinful people were poured out on Jesus. Therefore, the Law is now manifestly NOT the path to righteousness; Jesus is. The ultimate goal of the Law is that we would look to Jesus, ‘not’ law-keeping, for our righteousness. When Jesus said ”It is finished”, He meant it. Apostle Paul meant it too when he said “For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." lol

On the contrary.lol some more

Jesus’ world was rife with injustice, yet the Gospels record only one instance of what we have come to know as “righteous anger” on the part of Jesus.

What explains the venomous, diffuse distemper of some ‘Christians’...? Is their vitriol the mark of a disciple...?

That’s a lengthy response, NONE of which negated the FACTS that I posted above it.

Some ‘Christians’ sure do come across as being quite angry...do they represent Jesus in a way that draws people from the onlooking world to Jesus...? Isn’t something off-kilter about such angry ‘Christians’...?

The way you read it, murder is now OK, along with every other sin.

Angry? That's not me, that must be your feelings of guilt. I do believe you have guilt issues. There's some behavior you are refusing to address.

BTW, who said "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"?

Jesus wrapped up the law nicely in what we now know as the Golden Rule.

Yes sir. Jesus’ entire ministry on earth can be summed up in that passage. And He said the Law and the Prophets (the entire Old Testament) can be summed up in that passage as well. That’s it. That’s what it’s all about. The rest is just cheap whiskey.

As it relates to the Bible, define “The rest is just cheap whiskey “.

The Jim sez.....he gives notteth two schits what thyne Pope sayeth.

That also goes for the resteth of thyne religious nutteths.

When Jesus said what He did, there was no “the Bible”. Jesus’ discourse with the Pharisee regarding the greatest commandment...

One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” [Matthew 22:35-40. NIV]

To me, the second commandment is not subordinate to the first but merely second in sequence. “Like it” means ‘just as important’ or ‘equal to’...it means you can’t have the first without the second.

All of the Old Testament (the Law and the Prophets), and all of the New Testament (Jesus entire ministry on earth)...”hang on” loving God, and showing your love for God by loving others. Period. Apostle Paul (who wrote a ‘large’ part of the New Testament) said “the ONLY thing that matters is faith expressing itself through love.”

To me, the second commandment is not subordinate to the first but merely second in sequence. “Like it” means ‘just as important’ or ‘equal to’...it means you can’t have the first without the second.

That’s a lengthy response, NONE of which negated the FACTS that I posted above it.

Oh, so you have no idea what love is.

To you, love is handing a junkie a loaded syringe.

And you are wrong about that.

This is just gaslighting on your part. You do not have much regard for anyone.