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404 jeff or the 416 taylor #15331506 10/21/20
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what one would you rather have, just for sh*ts and giggles.

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Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15331553 10/21/20
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I have a .404 Jeffery.
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that's cool looking rig please details if you don't mind

Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15331629 10/21/20
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Bought it from a gunsmith who made it for himself he fired about 20 rounds through it to sight it in and has not fired it in about 20 or so years. I have been drooling over that rifle for about three years before he finally decided to sell it,I bought it in November 2019.

It is made on an original Mauser 98 action,not tapped and drilled for a scope,the stock is made from ? wood and I have no idea who made the barrel. It has the original flag style safety of the Mauser 98's. Have not weighed it but I think it's in the 8 lb range and it balances very well in my hands.

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that my friend is one cool rifle!!

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Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15332263 10/21/20
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Thank you. smile


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Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15333472 10/21/20
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Rifle is a beaut! Great piece of walnut!


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Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15334180 10/22/20
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elkhunter,
love the rifle

I have played around with 416 Rigby's and 404 Jeffery's.
I have since settled on a 416 Remington.. I like the better selection of 416 bullets and plan on working up a loads for the Barnes 350gr TSX and 300gr TSX..

I love the history of the 404, and used one to take a buffalo in Africa. If I could find the right rifle, I would own another one.
When I started my big bore journey, I looked very hard at the Taylor cartridge, and had it been commercialized, I probably would have went that direction.

So back to the original question. For kicks and giggles, I would probably choose a Taylor for pragmatism and the Jeffery for nostalgia. So whatever tickles your fancy. grin


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Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15334201 10/22/20
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Already have a 416 Taylor, and since having two 40-65's, '74 Sharps and original '86 Winchester, a 400 Whelen, and 400 H&H, don't see myself with ever a need for a 404 Jeffery, I'm flush with 40's, love em all, even 40 S&W and 10mm pistols ; ]


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super cool!

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Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: elkhunternm] #15335798 10/22/20
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Wow!!! That rifle sure looks the part,

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If Africa is in your future I would choose the 404 Jeffrey because of ammo availability if your ammo does not make it.

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Damn, I missed it, fine looking 404 Elk, now there's your 400gr solid to ele brain delivery system! cool


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Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15344359 10/25/20
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Originally Posted by mooshoo
that my friend is one cool rifle!!

Indeed.

Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15344399 10/25/20
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Well, maybe for those smaller wabbits.

Ain’t no .460...

Ha!

But an exceptional rifle.

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Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15347696 10/26/20
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I like and own the 404 Jeffery. It is a Dakota Safari that weighs 8.5lbs.

I also own (2) Ruger RSMs in 416 Rigby, and a Dakota African in 416 Rigby. The trouble with these rifles is that they all weigh 9.5 lbs., and I like light rifles, within reason.

I just bought a Ruger SS/Lam African in 416 Ruger, which is close to the 416 Taylor. I think I will like this rifle for wet hunting conditions.

I have only taken the 404 Jeffery to Africa and it brought down two Buffalo for me, using 400 gr. SAF. For my next Buffalo(s), I plan to use the 430 gr. NF bullets. See how they work. I shoot it open sighted and the stock (Safari) fits my small hands perfectly, unlike the Dakota African stock.

Interestingly, the Ruger RSMs at a pound more in weight, recoil more than the lighter 404, probably due to stock design and cartridge ejecta (more powder) of the Rigby.

So, the 404 is my huckleberry. Yes, I love the history of the round as well, and the Rigby is flush with it also in the literature. But, the Jeffery did come first...🙂

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Re: 404 jeff or the 416 taylor [Re: mooshoo] #15350841 10/27/20
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Bud killed a nice buff in Zim, used 400 gr. TSX in Ruger RSM .416 Rigby. PH carried PF M-70 .416 REM. He liked the big Ruger, but said it was too heavy.

I know, I know a PF. PH probably not a Fire contributor, doesn’t realize how likely he is to get himself tromped, toting a PF rifle.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Bud killed a nice buff in Zim, used 400 gr. TSX in Ruger RSM .416 Rigby. PH carried PF M-70 .416 REM. He liked the big Ruger, but said it was too heavy.

I know, I know a PF. PH probably not a Fire contributor, doesn’t realize how likely he is to get himself tromped, toting a PF rifle.

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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Bud killed a nice buff in Zim, used 400 gr. TSX in Ruger RSM .416 Rigby. PH carried PF M-70 .416 REM. He liked the big Ruger, but said it was too heavy.

I know, I know a PF. PH probably not a Fire contributor, doesn’t realize how likely he is to get himself tromped, toting a PF rifle.

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Harry Shelby also used a push feed 458 for a number of years without getting stomped



Yeah, what did ole Harry know.... blush

Probably wasn't a Fire contributor... grin

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I have the Taylor built on a tang safety Ruger action. It's been to Africa and I used it on everything from warthogs to buffalo. I don't thing the light rifle ever got out of the vehicle. I've akso used it on elk and it sees a lot of use during deer season.

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