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Mr Farmer, those are two beautiful rifles.

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Originally Posted by Beaglemaster
Mr Farmer, those are two beautiful rifles.

Thanks. Projects of the past. Keepers both.

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I put a 2.5 leupold on mine


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The 45/70 is not fussy to load for and works well with a range of powders. When I first started off I used Elmer Keith’s load of 53gr of 3031 behind a 400gr Speer. I later switched to cast and had to reduce the load to 49gr as the cast pill took up more space. Both loads were very accurate. When IMR powders were no longer imported I switched to Reloader 7. This is a top powder for a lot of straight wall levergun calibres. It’s dense and fills the case well. I did a run of loads from 1600 to over 2000fps and the thing I liked about R-7 loads is they were accurate across a range of velocities. Behind a 415gr cast HP I settled on 45gr of R-7 as a good balance between velocity and recoil. Accuracy was slightly better than 3031.

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Originally Posted by JFE
The 45/70 is not fussy to load for and works well with a range of powders. When I first started off I used Elmer Keith’s load of 53gr of 3031 behind a 400gr Speer. I later switched to cast and had to reduce the load to 49gr as the cast pill took up more space. Both loads were very accurate. When IMR powders were no longer imported I switched to Reloader 7. This is a top powder for a lot of straight wall levergun calibres. It’s dense and fills the case well. I did a run of loads from 1600 to over 2000fps and the thing I liked about R-7 loads is they were accurate across a range of velocities. Behind a 415gr cast HP I settled on 45gr of R-7 as a good balance between velocity and recoil. Accuracy was slightly better than 3031.



Great post! thanks. I use RL-7 with my 375 Winchester with great success. Might have to try ir with my cast 425 grainers.


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Jorge, I have found the 425 grain weight to be very versatile in the .45-70. You can get enough velocity to *somewhat* flatten the trajectory, and the ones I've used, made by CastPerformance and Beartooth Bullets, have excellent penetration. That weight is also very accurate in my rifle.

If I were limited to one weight in the .45-70, 425 grains would be it.

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Thanks for that, Vic. Woody (FlyBoyFlem) makes the 425s for me and as you can see by my target and the 1700 plus velocity, I have a good load!


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You're good for anything on this continent!

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Have one in a Guide Gun and find it scary accurate.


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Jorge, don't know if you're interested in a mild plinking load, but if so Unique is your friend. Shot this from my 1978 vintage straight stocked Marlin with a Weaver 2.5X. This group was a fluke, but not overly so. This mouse fart load stays at or below 1.5" consistently and you can shoot it all day long without developing a flinch.


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My hunting load uses a gas checked, powder coated 405 gr RCBS FP bullet cast very soft. Weight with my alloy is about 415 gr. The charge is 2400 powder and chronos around 1600 fps. Accuracy stays in the 1.5 - 1.75" range.

You're gonna love the 45-70!


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Excellent, thanks!


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Hey fellas. New guy here but it is only right that my first post here be in the big bore lever gun forum as they are my favorites. To the OP there are several brands making peep sights that fit the top existing holes on rifle. Some brands mentioned already were Williams and XS sights. I have personally used both of those on my 1895’s. Other high quality peeps are made by skinner sights and Ranger Point Precision. Next purchase for my sbl will be skinner rear peep and a winged rear peep for my 336.

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Originally Posted by ValleyDawg
Hey fellas. New guy here but it is only right that my first post here be in the big bore lever gun forum as they are my favorites. To the OP there are several brands making peep sights that fit the top existing holes on rifle. Some brands mentioned already were Williams and XS sights. I have personally used both of those on my 1895’s. Other high quality peeps are made by skinner sights and Ranger Point Precision. Next purchase for my sbl will be skinner rear peep and a winged rear peep for my 336.

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jorge1, 42.0 grains of RL 7 certainly works with my 430 grain bullets ( pretty close to 425) as evidenced by my photo of the first page! I’m content to leave well enough alone! Lots of folks have had good results with RL 7. Try it, you will like it! wink memtb

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I never expected the accuracy I've seen from the 45-70 Marlin rifles. Really surprised me that a relatively inexpensive big bore lever action could heave 350 - 425 grain bullets so nicely.

Only game I've ever taken with mine was a mule deer doe at about 70 yards. The 405 gr Remington, handloaded to about 1650 fps went through both shoulder blades and broke her spine as well. Dang. She dropped right there.

It's a comforting rifle to have along on camping/fishing trips in bear country. Yes indeed. smile I think you're going to enjoy that Marlin Jorge!

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Originally Posted by Cascade
I never expected the accuracy I've seen from the 45-70 Marlin rifles. Really surprised me that a relatively inexpensive big bore lever action could heave 350 - 425 grain bullets so nicely.

Only game I've ever taken with mine was a mule deer doe at about 70 yards. The 405 gr Remington, handloaded to about 1650 fps went through both shoulder blades and broke her spine as well. Dang. She dropped right there.

It's a comforting rifle to have along on camping/fishing trips in bear country. Yes indeed. smile I think you're going to enjoy that Marlin Jorge!

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im putting a vari xIII 1.5-5x20 with a german 4 reticle on it.

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Nice stick Jorge, and the rest of you Gents too, last week an old Buddy pulled three short barreled Marlin lever rifles from his safe, iirc the were 444, 450 and 45-70, they all looked the same, never seen factory rifles with such short barrels, i asked him what he was going to do with them.

Sell them to you if you want them, said we may need to talk, dont know what i'd do with them, they were very nice handy looking little rifles, almost makes me want to get a rail and that spare 1.5-5 Leupold up on the safe and put one to work.


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The 1895 Marlins are real stopping rifles.

Early one morning I stepped out of our hunting cabin and shot a bear in my pajamas.

Why he was wearing my pajamas, I dunno. whistle


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Had the same feeling a number of years ago when I shot a moose in my bathrobe.

How DOES that happen? smile


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