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Re: Buying new tools question [Re: riverdog] #15348359 10/26/20
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Craftsman is now carried by Lowes, and even the guys that work there tell you they are crap.


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Re: Buying new tools question [Re: riverdog] #15348372 10/26/20
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Yep. the once great Craftsman tool brand has been watered-down and manufacture has been moved offshore to chiner. The old American-made Craftsman is a much better bet, which you can easily find used.


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Gearwrenches are a nice item.


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Re: Buying new tools question [Re: riverdog] #15348429 10/26/20
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Lotta good information here. Thanks everyone. Got to thinking I’m getting ahead of myself here. I don’t have anyplace to put any tools or work on anything

Re: Buying new tools question [Re: riverdog] #15348437 10/26/20
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Originally Posted by riverdog
Lotta good information here. Thanks everyone. Got to thinking I’m getting ahead of myself here. I don’t have anyplace to put any tools or work on anything

Nothing to stop you form starting to accumulate tools...

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When our buildings fell down, we used a pickup toolbox, a nonrunning Bronco, and the hose for our tools


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Re: Buying new tools question [Re: riverdog] #15348450 10/26/20
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Get started now. I've been accumulating tools for the past 30 years and I'm still not finished!


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Re: Buying new tools question [Re: riverdog] #15348452 10/26/20
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+1 on S&K, then Proto, Snap-on. Don't buy cheap stuff you will regret it.

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Re: Buying new tools question [Re: riverdog] #15348548 10/26/20
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I deal with industrial contractors and maintenance teams daily. For electrical stuff they’re about 6:1 Milwaukee to other stuff. Some Dewalt. Miller welders.

For socket sets and wrenches they mostly use various flavors of imports because stuff tends to wander off on job sites.

Knipex pliers are a must have.

Lots of Klein screwdrivers.

Re: Buying new tools question [Re: High_Noon] #15348634 10/26/20
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Originally Posted by High_Noon
Yep. the once great Craftsman tool brand has been watered-down and manufacture has been moved offshore to chiner. The old American-made Craftsman is a much better bet, which you can easily find used.


B&D or Stanley bought the name.


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Re: Buying new tools question [Re: wabigoon] #15348706 10/26/20
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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I'll also plug the SK tools.


SK is back in business and still producing first quality tools made in the US.

I have a 3/4 drive SK set that I am at least the 5th owner of. All of the owners names are on the box, and I knew the 2 before me.

5-6 years back I nooticed that they ratchet spring seemed sloppy and maybe a little iffy. Called SK and told them about the set. Told them how old it was. Told them that there had been a list of previous owners.
The factory rep asked for the number on the ratchet. I asked her what a new set of guts would cost. She told me, "No charge for parts/repairs/replacement for any broken or failed SK tool."


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Re: Buying new tools question [Re: riverdog] #15348721 10/26/20
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I still like the Craftsman screwdrivers.


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Re: Buying new tools question [Re: riverdog] #15348809 10/26/20
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If you live anywhere near a military base tool shop at the local pawn shops.


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If you’re on a budget , the Lowe’s brand has a lifetime warranty I believe and won’t break the bank.


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I would start now watching for quality used tools in excellent condition. Watch for name brands. Avoid Chinese.


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Around here, Goodwill has one day a week they set out tools .Pennies on the dollar


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I've had more SK sockets fail than any other, but would still probably go that route for a basic socket/wrench set anyway, given the other options.

Would absolutely shop used, you can occasionally find someone selling a full box with tools and get a decent deal.

Re: Buying new tools question [Re: OldmanoftheSea] #15348902 10/26/20
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Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Yep. the once great Craftsman tool brand has been watered-down and manufacture has been moved offshore to chiner. The old American-made Craftsman is a much better bet, which you can easily find used.


B&D or Stanley bought the name.

They also purchased the Manufacturing facilities located right here in the US of A but chose profits over quality resulting in another great American company being ruint or worse.

Several of the Craftsman rolling tool chests are still made in America, and they seem to be decent quality - certainly not the quality of a Macsimizer, for example, but decent.

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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
If you live anywhere near a military base tool shop at the local pawn shops.


Winner right here. I have made my living with tools ( hand and electrical) and 90% have been bought at pawn shops. I’m not talking craftsman even though you can buy a broken screw driveR for .25 and drive straight to the store and exchange it. My stuff is snap on, Matco, blue point, fluke, amprobe. When I started my job 20yrs ago, we were a division of ingersoll-rand. They had a intranet page set up for everything from hand tools to air compressors to golf carts and bobcat brands. One guy bought his skid steer through work.

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Far as power tools go, about any of the "Pro" brands(Milwaukee, Makita, DeWalt, Metabo...) SHOULD last for years of homeowner use. Current load out on my job truck is M18 Fuel Mlwaukee cordless tools, 15 amp DeWalt circ saws and both Makita and Hilti rotary hammers with Hilti power actuated nailers.

Hard to go wrong with Estwing or Picard hammers. Ames(US made) shovels have always been high quality.


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