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Anyone ever try Ozonics when coyote calling?

would be a waste of money. 220 million olfactory receptors, the coyote would smell the ozone, the coffee on your breath, the ketchup that squeezed out of the burger you ate In your camo cloths last week, along with the rifle cleaning solution of your choosing, and your chosen deodorant, along with the fresh cow chit you stepped in on the way to your stand.

Play the wind, or waste your money wishing you would've played the wind.

Yeah...I know all that stuff...Im actually thinking it might be of some use by the bad guys hiding contraband from dogs. If it would fool a coyote even a little....it might be worth looking into cause I dont think anything shy of a bear has a better nose...

I also wonder if it does fool deer if their olfactory system is set up differently, because it wouldn't be hard wired to the smells of prey...

like TR said. 100% smell ya no matter what. He knows, I seen him on tv shows for a long time. He is older then e calls and tape players

Yeah...I figured in open air, you ain't gonna fool a coyote. Period. I will probably go ahead and experiment to see if I can fool a K9...but frankly I've never found a way to do the either...

You making lots of money on your import business?

Called three in last week. First one made a big circle at 250 or so yards. Before he got into my scent stream, a 40 gr ballistic tip killed him. The other two came in crosswind but fading down wind. My brother put a 40 gr ballistic tip in both at about 150 yards, before they got down wind. We were calling in very open country.
In either of those cases and many more that I recall, an Ozonics would not provide any benefit.

Ozone is bad for you

A Buzzard can smell 2 ounces of fresh killed meat 2 miles away up in the sky... try to fool one of them suckers.

I watch those guys on YouTube hanging those things up, even in totally enclosed box blinds, and think, that’s almost as good a scam as Pet Psychology.

All about the money!!!!!!!!!!!

You see right through me.....

Don't forget to pair it with a Hecs suit......

Precisely. Those guys using that stuff on their TV show are getting paid to have it plainly visible on camera. Whether it’s necessary or works is not the issue.

Given enough “set time” odor permeates everything. The canines ability to separate odors is another factor. The K9 will
Smell the odor in question but as far as an indication in a deep find…they have to be willing to accept they aren’t at source. I don’t think ozone would have any effect as the dog would separate the odors anyway. Maybe make the odor seem “deeper” if you will, but not conceal it.

Open air…no chance.

As mentioned to an earlier poster, he sees right through me. Its all about the ability to hide contraband from a K9 ( I'm in K9..on the good guys side....) And you are right...open air, no way. Enclosed, if done properly, it can work. Otherwise what little studies have been done, it takes the dog twice as long to indicate on hidden people ( cant stop them from breathing) and significantly longer on contraband, and yeah, they will act like they aren't really sure of the source or its volume.
You are also right about the dog separating the odors, which it can do as long as the free radical "O" atom hasn't attached itself through long exposure.


I started this thread knowing if you can get it past a coyote, you can get it past any K9...

I gotcha. I’m also in K9 on the good side. We set stuff to simulate smuggler tactics to test dogs in training. Have not been able to beat them yet with realistic set times we see. But we are pushing our dogs to see what they can do, not setting up to fail where they can’t succeed but we make it hard. Stuff glued in PVC in gas tanks, etc. I haven’t seen use of ozone yet but interested to see what happens for sure.

Ingwe, I am really interested in what you are finding. I assume you are doing some testing with dogs you know?

From my attempts to fool coyote noses years ago, I concluded that maybe with the best odor eradication I could come up with at the time, it might delay full scent recognition for a few seconds. Sometimes the coyote just seemed puzzled at what he was smelling for a second or two, not that he didn't smell something but it was apparently a new scent combo to him. All of that is guess as to what was going on in the coyote's nose and brain, and results were not worth the effort.

You can run more controlled and measurable tests than my fooling around with wild coyotes, close up in bow hunting stands in thick brush.

Most of the testimonials re scent control that I have seen are declarations that the hunter got close to an animal, therefore the animal did not smell the hunter. All that proves is that the hunter got close. There are too many factors and I have gotten close to too many animals to buy that logic. We have no idea what the critter smelled or didn't smell. Tests with a trained dog would be far more definitive, and to the extent that you can reveal, I'm curious what you find as you try different ways to deceive a dog nose.

With human scent control measures, I don’t think it’s an issue of scent elimination but an issue of perceived threat. The closer the animal is to the source of an odor, the more concentrated the odor is. My theory is that those products are reducing the concentration of human scent to a point the animals think the person is no threat at all when they are really closer than they smell, if that makes sense.

I have seen this when bow hunting deer especially. I am very careful about my scent. I have had deer down wind of me at 20 yards or less. I could tell they smell something but not sure of source/distance and the move on. Older deer who are more sensitive to the threat seem to not tolerate it as well but don’t blow the area/snort like if they bust ya 100% usually. You aren’t fooling their nose, you are giving the impression you are farther away than you really are (not a threat) as you said, it can buy a few seconds while they figure it out at best.

I also wear rubber boots with raccoon cover scent on them and watched a Coyote track me to my stand. Even if the rubber “blocks” foot odor you’re still creating ground disturbance odor. Deer usually sniff maybe where I step and move on, the Coyote tracked me right where I walked, until we locked eyes at fifteen yards and he was gone.

If you already have one, may be worth a try. My limited experience with recent purchase for deer hunting is that they are effective in reducing odor in clothes and gear. And my truck...