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Seafire,

I have both Partitions and Speer 140's.... a box of each. Plus a few Hornady 140's as well.
I have several of the Sierra 140 spbt's... I have limited experience with Sierra on game, but think they're on the soft side (270, 284, 358). Which is to say, maybe not so good up close, but great at longer range. Horns and Speer, I have great faith in.

I just wanna load them up and see what shoots good and ring steel with them.
If I warm to one in particular, I'll adopt it for a while and go shoot stuff.

I have an abundance of IMR 4350, a couple cans of W748 and a bit of W380 on hand.
There was some W760 at SW the other day, but when I decided to go buy some they were gone. Dang!

Where I hunt it could be a 50' shot or a 400 yard attempt...on either deer or a cow elk.
Having a load that will run from steel to game at whatever range pops up is the plan.....


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Have the Nosler Partitions changes much in their design and construction over the past 10-15 years???

About that long ago I found them to pencil through deer out of a 270 that was moving along at 3050fps. Accuracy with them was so so but then again that rifle produced accuracy that was so so also.

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Originally Posted by Redhill


Have the Nosler Partitions changes much in their design and construction over the past 10-15 years???

About that long ago I found them to pencil through deer out of a 270 that was moving along at 3050fps. Accuracy with them was so so but then again that rifle produced accuracy that was so so also.


How was this determined? With Partitions the size of the holes in the hide don't always tell the tale.

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Originally Posted by Blacktail53


Where I hunt it could be a 50' shot or a 400 yard attempt...on either deer or a cow elk.
Having a load that will run from steel to game at whatever range pops up is the plan.....


And that is where the Partition excels........


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Originally Posted by Redhill


Have the Nosler Partitions changes much in their design and construction over the past 10-15 years???

About that long ago I found them to pencil through deer out of a 270 that was moving along at 3050fps. Accuracy with them was so so but then again that rifle produced accuracy that was so so also.


I haven't seen much change in the 6mm,, 270, 7mm, or 308 in recent years. Of course, I haven't tried all the weights the Partitions come in with those calibers.

This year I had a .270 size exit hole with a Partition on a 500+ lb bull at ~50 yds. But it first broke the onside shoulder and obliterated the offside leg bone before it exited. Probably the back half of the 160 gr was the culprit..........


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Originally Posted by Redhill
I only have experience with my 6.5CM with deer using the 143 ELDX and have seen more and more postings about guys moving down to bullet weights for the 6.5CM in the 120's. I know that will pick up some speed but wondered about energy at extended ranges on game.

My plans are for an antelope hunt in Montana next year where the ranges in this area are 500+.

I have used the bullet weights in the 120s for my Grendel and that seems to be working out ok so far.

Your thoughts on lighter bullets


100 grain Ballistic Tip, or Partition, will do the job...

along with 100 grain Hornady SP ( out of production), 100 Sierra HP, Hornady 100 grain A Max, or ELD-M....

I'd even consider the 90 gr Speer TNT or the 95 V Max.... Antelope aren't hard to kill...


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Originally Posted by Redhill
I only have experience with my 6.5CM with deer using the 143 ELDX and have seen more and more postings about guys moving down to bullet weights for the 6.5CM in the 120's. I know that will pick up some speed but wondered about energy at extended ranges on game.

My plans are for an antelope hunt in Montana next year where the ranges in this area are 500+.

I have used the bullet weights in the 120s for my Grendel and that seems to be working out ok so far.

Your thoughts on lighter bullets


100 grain Ballistic Tip, or Partition, will do the job...

along with 100 grain Hornady SP ( out of production), 100 Sierra HP, Hornady 100 grain A Max, or ELD-M....

I'd even consider the 90 gr Speer TNT or the 95 V Max.... Antelope aren't hard to kill...


I kind’a lean the other way - if your really considering shooting antelope at the longer ranges, that 143 eldx is probably about as good as it gets. Wind, and lots of it too, it most antelope country. The heavier, higher BC bullets will have less drift and aid it hitting.

I’ll assume your using a good laser range finder to acquire yardage and dialing your drops. If not, and your going to be holding over, things get complicated quickly.... hold over and windage....
Most antelope are killed at more modest distances where bullet weight is less a concern.
My last antelope was in Wyoming in 2017. 275 yards with my creed and a 129 Hornady. I simply held high lungs and hit.


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Allen,

I have faith in the 100 grainers.... that being said....there are no wrong choices going heavier either...

129 and 140 grain Hornadys have never failed me either....

I lean toward the 140 Ballistic Tip vs the 143 Hornady...for no logical reason except it a Nosler made here in Oregon
vs Hornady being out of state.... If I lived in Nebraska, it would probably be the opposite....

I have an issue with Hornady, canning the A Max and its lower price, with the excuse the tip would melt at higher velocity..
so they come out with different weights of say 3 grains in the bullet, it having a different polymer tip, and that justifies
the price going up quite a bit..... kinda sounds like the democRATS trying to get us to believe, that the 2020 election had
NO Voter Fraud going on....

A man who practices shooting 500 yds, is going to be able to hit something at 500 yds...or less...

a 260 or a Creedmoor, either shooter is going to do well if they have practiced shooting that kind of distance.. the rounds are up to it..


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The 139 Scenar is my 140 grain bullet of choice.

Haven't shot anything with it yet except paper, but impressive on paper...


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the bullets you mention do all shoot well, but i have went to Berger bullets > 140 VLD shoot great on paper and deer too.good luck with your choice. Pete53


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I've found that 129 Interbonds sort of split the difference. A little faster than the 140 and holds onto more weight than the Interlock. Haven't had any issues with them on deer. All pass throughs. Not loaded factory anymore, but still available as a component.

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I also have a gajillion 130 AR Hybrids that shoot very well in the 6.5 Creedmoor.

@JohnBurns is a big fan.


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I load only 140:in the creedmoor, NAB. Bone penetration and lots of body parts on the far side.


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Killed an antelope at 250yds this year with a 108 Scenar out of the Creed. Bang-Flop. I'm still convinced speed kills on deer sized game.

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What works for me is 140g in the Creedmor and 123g in the Grendel

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Originally Posted by Blacktail53
Seafire,

I have both Partitions and Speer 140's.... a box of each. Plus a few Hornady 140's as well.
I have several of the Sierra 140 spbt's... I have limited experience with Sierra on game, but think they're on the soft side (270, 284, 358). Which is to say, maybe not so good up close, but great at longer range. Horns and Speer, I have great faith in.

I just wanna load them up and see what shoots good and ring steel with them.
If I warm to one in particular, I'll adopt it for a while and go shoot stuff.

I have an abundance of IMR 4350, a couple cans of W748 and a bit of W380 on hand.
There was some W760 at SW the other day, but when I decided to go buy some they were gone. Dang!

Where I hunt it could be a 50' shot or a 400 yard attempt...on either deer or a cow elk.
Having a load that will run from steel to game at whatever range pops up is the plan.....


The IMR4350 works great with the 129 interlocks. I have a load that pushes them at about 2950-about the same as with Re 17. If you have any Re26, try it with the 140s. It is amazing with heavy bullets. Re 19 works well, along with all of the standard selection of powders.


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Is it just me or does 2950 sound just a little bit warm with 129's?

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Originally Posted by Hookset
Is it just me or does 2950 sound just a little bit warm with 129's?


Awe 300 or 400 FPS is close enough on the fire


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Originally Posted by Hookset
Is it just me or does 2950 sound just a little bit warm with 129's?


Not at all. Not even max using Nosler data. I had them over 3000, but one rifle did not like the Re17 load in the summer during depredation work. Look up the data. These velocities are over my Pro Chrono and are proven out on the range. 24-inch Criterion barrel. All of my Criterion barrels are cleaned and lubed with Amsoil Metal Protector and have proven to be fast barrels.


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My tikka does well with 130 game changers at almost 2900.
IMO, best bang for the buck


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