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Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: TrueGrit] #15400003 11/10/20
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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
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I would look for a 2018 or newer RAM 6.4L Hemi. That is the the first year for the 8 speed auto trans. I have a 2017 6.4L, 6 speed with 4:10 axles and it get 1 mpg less than the Diesels. Diesel is great if you need it. I don't purchase for the 1% use.

BS, you won't get within 5 mpg of my deleted 2013 Ram 3500 4x4 with 300k on the odometer. My advice is, don't buy a newer diesel truck unless your prepared to trade before the warranty is up, or you completely delete the emission BS. IMO, the best diesel trucks ever made are the Ford 2005 - 2007 once you delete and bullet proof them.


I guess that was the problem with my 2014 Ram 3500..

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Dealer couldn't fix it. It was in the shop more than out in the last 6 months I owned it. All emissions related problems. EGR, turbo, etc., etc.

It only had 30k miles on it when I threw in the towel and bought by F350.


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Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: viking] #15400018 11/10/20
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Tow/haul really is nice for going down hills.


I love the deleted 6.7 F350 combo. Drug a 20' horse trailer around for about 2k miles in the last couple weeks and never wished it was a gas.

Buying used I'd look for a townie trade in and delete asap.


Should add we're in rural MT, no checkpoints in the foreseeable future.



We have a recently deleted F550 here at work, OMG does that make a difference.




It's nice.


We already had a DRW deleted F350 bale bed and I wanted to get SRW 7.3 for a mud/snow feed pickup. But then Corona rolled in and I got spooked about spending $60k.

Found a creampuff used 6.7 for $19k, 150k miles but drives like new. No brainer on that deal.

Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: Orion2000] #15400046 11/10/20
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Originally Posted by Orion2000
Toyota manufactures and sells diesel passenger vehicles in almost every auto market in the world where they do business, except the U.S. No clue why they choose not to sell diesel passenger vehicles, here. However, they do manufacture 3, 4, 5, and 6 cylinder diesels for marine and medium/heavy duty truck use around the world. Hino is the Toyota truck brand currently marketed and sold in the U.S.

It would be a seemingly simple design exercise for Toyota engineers to adapt one of their existing diesel motors to the Tundra platform and totally kick butt in the U.S. light truck market. Unfortunately, not their "cup-o-tea"...


Look how many years before they put a full-size pickup on the US market. They sure don’t seem to rush into anything



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Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: irfubar] #15400060 11/10/20
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Originally Posted by irfubar
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Originally Posted by MM879
I would look for a 2018 or newer RAM 6.4L Hemi. That is the the first year for the 8 speed auto trans. I have a 2017 6.4L, 6 speed with 4:10 axles and it get 1 mpg less than the Diesels. Diesel is great if you need it. I don't purchase for the 1% use.

Does anyone know what the RPM difference is between the gasoline and diesel engines when towing an equal load?


Yes , diesel 1800rpm.... gas 4500 rpm
I have an '08 Dodge Cummins with a manual tranny and 3.73 gears. At 60 mph in high gear, it's right at 2000 rpm. With an equal load that's probably not much different than a gas engine. With an equal HEAVY load, the gasser might be down a gear or two.


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Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: MM879] #15400185 11/10/20
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Originally Posted by MM879
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Originally Posted by MM879
I would look for a 2018 or newer RAM 6.4L Hemi. That is the the first year for the 8 speed auto trans. I have a 2017 6.4L, 6 speed with 4:10 axles and it get 1 mpg less than the Diesels. Diesel is great if you need it. I don't purchase for the 1% use.

BS, you won't get within 5 mpg of my deleted 2013 Ram 3500 4x4 with 300k on the odometer. My advice is, don't buy a newer diesel truck unless your prepared to trade before the warranty is up, or you completely delete the emission BS. IMO, the best diesel trucks ever made are the Ford 2005 - 2007 once you delete and bullet proof them.

I never compared my vehicle to an illegal deleted diesel. Learn to read for comprehension.


Lol, I don’t know anyone that has a diesel with emission controls that is not illegally deleted, crazy but true.My buddy just bought a 2020 F350, after 3000 miles he took all the [bleep] off of it,it’s a monster!I have five diesel trucks 7.3 6.0 5.9, Everyone has a tune,all emissions deleted where applicable :-)

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Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: MM879] #15400313 11/10/20
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Originally Posted by MM879
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Originally Posted by MM879
I would look for a 2018 or newer RAM 6.4L Hemi. That is the the first year for the 8 speed auto trans. I have a 2017 6.4L, 6 speed with 4:10 axles and it get 1 mpg less than the Diesels. Diesel is great if you need it. I don't purchase for the 1% use.

BS, you won't get within 5 mpg of my deleted 2013 Ram 3500 4x4 with 300k on the odometer. My advice is, don't buy a newer diesel truck unless your prepared to trade before the warranty is up, or you completely delete the emission BS. IMO, the best diesel trucks ever made are the Ford 2005 - 2007 once you delete and bullet proof them.

I never compared my vehicle to an illegal deleted diesel. Learn to read for comprehension.


The 2013 and on Rams that use DPF and SCR systems don't benefit as much fuel mileage wise from deleting, unlike the earlier, up to 2012 trucks.. Fuel mileage is almost identical unless the truck is in regen mode. The real benefit is that there is no EGR to contaminate the oil, and no reliability issues dues to crappy emission control systems. So yeah, I call BS on that one too.


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Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: jimmyp] #15400783 11/10/20
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The dealer I bought my truck from just offered me more that I paid for it. I've been driving it for 3 years. I'm currently running the numbers on a 21 6.4 in the same configuration. I get tier I supplier price to sweeten the deal a little. I couldn't do this with any deletes on the vehicle.

Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: badger] #15403053 11/10/20
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Originally Posted by badger
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Originally Posted by MM879
I would look for a 2018 or newer RAM 6.4L Hemi. That is the the first year for the 8 speed auto trans. I have a 2017 6.4L, 6 speed with 4:10 axles and it get 1 mpg less than the Diesels. Diesel is great if you need it. I don't purchase for the 1% use.

BS, you won't get within 5 mpg of my deleted 2013 Ram 3500 4x4 with 300k on the odometer. My advice is, don't buy a newer diesel truck unless your prepared to trade before the warranty is up, or you completely delete the emission BS. IMO, the best diesel trucks ever made are the Ford 2005 - 2007 once you delete and bullet proof them.

I never compared my vehicle to an illegal deleted diesel. Learn to read for comprehension.


The 2013 and on Rams that use DPF and SCR systems don't benefit as much fuel mileage wise from deleting, unlike the earlier, up to 2012 trucks.. Fuel mileage is almost identical unless the truck is in regen mode. The real benefit is that there is no EGR to contaminate the oil, and no reliability issues dues to crappy emission control systems. So yeah, I call BS on that one too.

The real benfit in deleting a newer diesel truck is that you won't be broke down or in limp mode because of the emissions related BS. Never said what mpg I achieved before or after deleting my truck. But I will say that I'm willing to wager whatever amount you feel comfortable that none of the newer 3/4 or one ton gas trucks will get within 1 mpg of my my 2013 Ram 3500 4x4 diesel. And I honestly don't believe any 3/4 or one ton 4x4 gas truck will get within 5 mpg of my truck, but I'm not willing to back that up.


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Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: jimmyp] #15405232 11/11/20
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You guys are talking me into a gas truck with all the emissions Bull-s-hit on diesels now.


Re: Ram cummins diesel or Chevy Duramax? [Re: jimmyp] #15405291 11/11/20
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My 2008 Ford was vandalized. Someone put a bunch of gasoline in the fuel tank and messed up the engine. Luckily, insurance covered it. Here is a picture of it being towed home with the replacement truck, a 2019 Ram 3500 with the HO 6.7 Cummins.

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The Ram is the best towing pickup I ever had. It tows that gooseneck with a Deere 5075e around like it is nothing. It rarely gets driven without a trailer, but when it does, I have been getting around 18.5 around town. I never bought Dodge before because their transmissions and brakes were crap. This one has the Aisin 6-speed and they massively upgraded the brakes. So far so good. I did extend the bumper to bumper warranty to 100K miles just in case.

One of my Kenworth's just ate a camshaft and needs an engine re-build. 2020 is shaping up to be a very, very crappy year.

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