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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: Jim_Conrad] #15407672 11/12/20
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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad


Haha!

I have more to fear from wealthy whites than poor whites.



Yeah.

I'm pretty sure Jack Dorsey ain't living on the west side of Chicago.

LOL


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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: wabigoon] #15407678 11/12/20
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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I'll say some taxes, income seven out of ten years.


Corporations pay more taxes than you so their vote should count more.

Still sound like a fun idea?


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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: wabigoon] #15407696 11/12/20
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Does a corporation vote?


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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: wabigoon] #15407704 11/12/20
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Our corporation did not vote.


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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: wabigoon] #15407729 11/12/20
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Everybody pays taxes. The problem is that about half of the people in our country pay those taxes with "free" government money.

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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: local_dirt] #15407731 11/12/20
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Originally Posted by local_dirt
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Let's dig a little deeper.

Paying no taxes means they own no property and have no job. Therefore, they have no risk on electoral outcomes and can concentrate on who will promise them the biggest piece of free cake..



Not accurate.

Better statement would be, not enough of a job to overcome the personal exemption.



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If you understand that, then you should understand what I was saying.

Or, you want to get into Earned Income Credit, too?


Yes I understand but maybe others might not. Broad and incorrect statements can be misleading.



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Nothing incorrect. Not being to overcome personal exemption is zero sum.

Same result.



Ain’t about the result, it’s about your statement. Some people who don’t pax federal or state taxes still pay into Medicare and Social Security. About 30% people who don’t pay federal or state taxes still work.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/and-now-movie-fewer-americans-pay-no-federal-income-tax





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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: wabigoon] #15407736 11/12/20
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Work, or not, spending other people's money is so easy.


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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: muleshoe] #15407739 11/12/20
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Originally Posted by muleshoe
Does a corporation vote?


Shareholders do.

CEO's do.


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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: 16bore] #15407742 11/12/20
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Originally Posted by 16bore
I disagree. Every American should vote. But only once in an election, only when they are living, and with proper voter ID.




THIS!


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If you can read this in english- thank a vet.
Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: wabigoon] #15407746 11/12/20
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The government taking one persons money and giving to another involuntary should be made illegal by constitutional amendment. Otherwise it always ends the same way.


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I'd like to know how it was ever determined that a person with no wife and no children pays more taxes.

All things being equal.


Originally Posted by CowboyTim
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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: deflave] #15407775 11/12/20
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Originally Posted by deflave
I'd like to know how it was ever determined that a person with no wife and no children pays more taxes.

All things being equal.


He’s got a ton more money. Wife and kids are expensive.



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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: muleshoe] #15407782 11/12/20
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Originally Posted by muleshoe
Does a corporation vote?


Nah, they just hire armies of lobbyists, and donate boatloads of cash to PACs and other entities; they’re virtually powerless...

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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: wabigoon] #15407799 11/12/20
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”


This is attributed to some old dead guy but I actually came up with this.


Speaking of me, I am compassionate yet objective and clear headed. Only I should vote. There would never be any cheating since vote tallies will be easy to count and there would never be a tie or runoff. Since these qualities are part of my genetic makeup, when I die The Vote should be passed down to my oldest male heir. This system worked for millenia everywhere around the world, look at all the trouble that has ensued from changing it.


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EVERY consumer pays all the various taxes on consumer products such as fuel and transportation taxes, excise taxes, sales taxes, etc. Taxation isn't the essential element here. The politicians realize they can give free schit to more than half the population, while promising even more free stuff, and thus secure their re-election. That is one of the reasons the Greeks understood that democracy is the second-worst form of government, second only to complete chaos.

The government should not have any power beyond securing the rights of the citizens. That is the reason laid out for the existence of the every government in this nation.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Let's dig a little deeper.

Paying no taxes means they own no property and have no job. Therefore, they have no risk on electoral outcomes and can concentrate on who will promise them the biggest piece of free cake..



Not accurate.

Better statement would be, not enough of a job to overcome the personal exemption.



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If you understand that, then you should understand what I was saying.

Or, you want to get into Earned Income Credit, too?


Yes I understand but maybe others might not. Broad and incorrect statements can be misleading.



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Nothing incorrect. Not being to overcome personal exemption is zero sum.

Same result.


How about, those that cannot understand LD's statement shouldn't be voting?

Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: wabigoon] #15407921 11/12/20
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You need to study the effects of Maquiladora manufacturing. That story will tell you everything you need to know about
Debtor Rule" The end result will be depressed wages. Wages so low you will wish you were an Iowa Farmer.

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Like it or not, it will never go back to the way it was 250 years ago. The cat is out of the bag and can't be put back.

No point in arguing could woulda shoulda.


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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: Pharmseller] #15408049 11/12/20
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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by deflave
I'd like to know how it was ever determined that a person with no wife and no children pays more taxes.

All things being equal.


He’s got a ton more money. Wife and kids are expensive.



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Not in most cases across the USA - i.e, only if legally married / relatively well-off


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Re: "Debtor Rule". [Re: mtnsnake] #15408096 11/12/20
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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Only land owners should vote. No one else has a need in voting.


So the banks holding the deed get the vote of a mortgagee?

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