Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So what happens if/when they prove fraud?

Let's assume fraud, on a significant level, is proven. What's the options to settle things:

- A re-vote is not an option, logistically impossible to organize and execute in time, and I don't think it's allowed in the laws/constitution
- Most likely can't "toss out" bad ballots as once they are in they are in. You MIGHT be able to align a vote to an ID to a ballot, but that takes time
- Can the SC void the entire thing and toss it to Congress?
- Technically the states can ignore the vote and submit electors as they see fit

What if fraud is proven, but not to a scale to actually matter?

What if illegalities, such as R watchers not being allowed, is proven, that doesn't prove bad votes, implies it but not proves it.

depends

I dont think depends are gonna do it....

Most likely go to the SCOTUS.

There simply isn't a way to identify enough fraud to overturn the results. Therefore it should be ignored. Just ask all the resident tolls.

State legislatures in affected states will decide.

There are a number of spoiled ballots, ballots cast by ineligible voters, and deliberately fraudulent ballots, cast in every US election and, here's a news flash for you, both sides benefit from it and are, in turn, harmed by it. This election is no different except that the man who knew he was likely to lose, the man who started sowing the seeds of his loss within a month of taking the oath, started crying "foul" before the fact. That Trump won the 2016 election was a wonderful thing. That Trump spoiled the opportunity to get something done was not. Trump did such a bad job of reading the electorate that he was vulnerable to a truly inept opponent.
Right now, he is the one hiding in the basement and pouting like a spoiled, fat, baby. With each passing day, he shows himself to be even more lacking in integrity and class than the day before. Donald Trump gave us a Democratic Administration next time around and that's the truth.
The MSM piled on Trump unmercifully but that happened even more because the idiot made it so easy for them. With new stupid remarks tweeted out almost daily, Trump solidified his support among his cult followers but alienated many of the anti-Hillary voters who had elected him. He lost (and he DID lose) because he was stupid and he mistook his cult followers, who blindly follow him regardless of the chosen path, for countrywide support.
On the bright side, Biden/Harris should be a one term administration. On the dark side, that means we'll still have them for four years and that is Trump's fault. GD

Sounds like your bent over and lubed up already.......Looking forward to it even.

Assume nothing, get proven facts laid out, then go from there.

It's already proven.

The courts will determine, based on evidence, if ballots should be tossed, recounted, or reassigned... And it could result in small numbers or big numbers.

Having our judicial branch overseeing this gives me about the same amount of confidence as having the DOJ investigate voter and election fraud.

In 1876 there was a big mess like this. It ended up by a commission being appointed from both houses and the supreme court. They ended up with a compromise. While Tilden won the popular vote, the EC had 4 contested states and was too close to call. The compromise gave the all 20 contested EC votes and the election to Hayes but gave the Dems an end to reconstruction and a withdrawal of troops from the south.

My guess is that if massive fraud was proven, the SC would declare the election void and send it to the house or to congress as a whole. Either way would likely be a victory for Trump.

When Alito told the States contested ballots had to be segregated and they failed it cast doubt on the vote which can be considered negatively by the court. Those states have options based on their own law and usually involve electors being chosen by the legislature.

Same with poll watcher issues.

Pessimistically, not a fuucking thing. Otherwise, time will tell. I'd like to see several states do hand recounts with enough oversight to determine if there's anything there, there. Of course there's always going to be fools like GD that wish ill upon the guy who pretty clearly saved our country for these past four years, giving us some hope.

There you go. Classy, just like your hero. GD

Of course I know nothing about the law or the process, but in my opinion (which means nothing), I would hope that the courts would force a hand recount and audit to get an accurate count. The thing that concerns me as much as the fraudulent votes go, is all of the votes that were switched by the software. Cheatin bastards.

If it could be demonstrated that the software switched votes, it would call every single vote counted into question. In a sane world, that would utterly invalidate the result.

Funny how the software algorithm only switched in favor of democrats, huh?

Read the 12th amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Trump wins by a vote of the electoral college, 31 to 19. So long as he does not concede.

If that occurs we may see another civil war.

Riots.

From what I have seen of a basic analysis of the majority of the voting machines, vote rigging is not just possible, but is a standard "feature" of the machine. Party-favoring percentage rigging is in the features of the equipment. Meaning you could set the machine to favor a Democrat at 51% for a specific count, and as the machine "counts" votes, it gives 51% of the total votes to the Democrat. Which is why vote totals given by the machine give fractions of a vote. This has been demonstrated repeatedly, and dozens of lawsuits have already occurred in past elections, yet somehow the same machines are still in use. That's not an accident.

You prove my point that watching propaganda TV weakens your resolve.

Ask yourself a question. Would the propaganda media really complain so much about Twitter if they felt it hurt Trump? Is it possible that they used it to soften up the gullible to turn on Trump?
Twitter was used by Trump to distract the opposition while he got things done. Look at accomplishments rather than listening to what Jake Tapper tells you.