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Double lunged a moose at 240 yards with a 7mm Mag at 3050 FPS complete pass thru. Using Trophy Bonded Tipped. Bullet gets the job done.
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I've been using the 30/06 here in Colorado for the past 40+ years. Killed everything on your list plus moose, bighorn sheep & mtn goat. When I reloaded I used a 180 grain Hornady interlock spire point. Before I reloaded I used 180 grain factory-----Winchester, Remington & Federal. They all work. I didn't see much difference in the hand loads vs the factory. My reloads were more accurate-----but they both killed elk. I've now settled on Winchester 180 grain Power Points factory ammo. This time of year there is a $5 box rebate on them. I get several boxes every year. I've got about 10 boxes in the gun cabinet.
I shot all 3 factory loads into wet phonebooks just to see. The Power Point was a perfect mushroom with 120 grain weight. The other 2 Remington & Federal had @ 100 grain----and they were not mushrooms. I stopped reloading after I killed my bighorn-----used them again on the mtn goat and them finished up the batch on my WY moose. To be honest factory loads would have worked just as well.
I just killed a nice pronghorn buck @ 325 yards this past October with 180 grain factory. Don't over think it. The big 3 has the 30/06 all figured out & at $10 a box after the rebate---Why reload?
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I guess it would depend on which 30-06 rifle I was shooting. Usually the 180 gr. Hornady over H4350 in a Remington M700 Classic. My custom Mauser has a barrel 24" in length but a slower than normal twist rate. Gun was built for running cast bullets originally thus the 1 in 12" twist. I never could get any decent accuracy from the gun with 180 gr. bullets and settled on the 165 gr. Accubond for that one, I'm giving thought to trying the 165 gr. Sierra HPBT and the Nosler Partition in that rifle as I seem to have a bunch of them on hand. I could try the 165 gr. Speer Hot Core as well but I'm saving them for a .308 rifle I have that won't shoot anything else. I guess if I exclude that Mauser, probably the 180 gr. Hornady, or Nosler AB or PT would be what I would use for the 30-06. Hell! I used 180 gr. Sierras for years and they always worked just fine. Probably end up with whatever shot the best in a particular rifle. Paul B.
Our forefathers did not politely protest the British.They did not vote them out of office, nor did they impeach the king,march on the capitol or ask permission for their rights. ----------------They just shot them. MOLON LABE
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175 LRX. 168 TTSX. 165 accubonds or partitions
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I'm a big fan of the Barnes bullets. I hunt with them exclusively. Unfortunately, they aren't expanding after 300 yards at 30-06 velocities, hence my recomendation to jack up the starting speed.
At 300 yards a 30-06 is pushing a168 TTSX at ~2370fps. You don't think they will expand at that speed? Seriously? My bad, you are correct. I was looking at the Energy column instead of the speed column on my chart. Maybe out to 400 yards before they drop below 2K. Like I said I hunt fairly close, killed way more animals inside of 30 yards than I have past 150. My understanding is 2000 fps is about their lower limit for reliable expansion. I never get close to that speed range when hunting. I love the Barnes bullets, but I try to be aware of their limitations. They have been very consistent in my experience, but I know they have a max range for expansion. Your upstanding is incorrect, they expand to lower velocity, some as low as s 1400 FPS. Just call Barnes and ask because they aren't all the same. I killed an antelop at 777 yards with a 180 grain TSX and the internals were mush Precisely. Watch you tube video on 200 gr lrx expansion at 1600 fps. Very very impressed
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A Barnes 150 TTSX a 165 TTSX or a 168 TTSX if your rifle has a fast enough twist-rate. My preference would be the 165/168 weights as a “do it all” bullet. Though, if the increased bullet length didn’t reduce case capacity too much, I’d seriously consider the 175 LRX.....if you can push it fast enough! memtb
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In 2020 I can't fathom how this is a question. Seriously. The question should really be, "What Isn't A Do Everything 30-06 Bullet."
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Well nobody mentioned Berger that's a good thing.
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Hmmmm. I think I’ll start with 165 and 180 partitions and accubonds, and see what shoots best.
Oh, and believe it or not, deer bite. Fairly hard.
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180gr AB is my general purpose .30-06 bullet, although I'm not running them out to 600 yds on meat. The 190gr ABLRs have a nice BC, shoot well and it's not hard to get them up to a similar speed, but I haven't put them through any animals yet.
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Well nobody mentioned Berger that's a good thing. The question wasn't good for nothing, it was "do everything"... Nuff said..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Check out all these Carlos Hathcocks killing elk at 600 yards with a 30-06. Compensating for those 8ft bullet drops & 3ft wind drifts like it ain’t no thing.
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no question about it. IF ya rifle likes em. the 180 nosler partition in the ole '06 would be the best do all bullet made.you could prolly say ditto for a 180 grain accubond and get slightly better bc. Big Ed
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My dad killed everything, from coyote to moose, with 165 gr NP's from his 30-06. I don't have the will power to only use 1 rifle and 1 load for everything!
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168 TTSX or 175 LRX. Problem solved. My first thoughts exactly. I would have trouble not picking one of the above but a 165 bonded or partition would come in second.
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For me it is the 180 grain Swift Scirocco II.
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200gr Partition or Accubond at 2700 fps, the partition load at 2700 fps is precisely the one i'll take for the 40 animal African cull hunt I'm looking at, tough Zebra and Wildebeest on down will all fall to that excellent load in the old '06. Please come back and post the story not only of this hunt but of the performance of your load. Sounds like it would actually make a great magazine article. I am working on finalizing my 30-06 200NPT load myself, though I don't have a great hunt like that on the horizon. Thanks, Rex
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