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Re: Best #2 load for feral hogs [Re: hh4whiskey] #15412990 11/13/20
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Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
You sure you didn’t mean the steel load kicks LESS?


Nope same payload 200 fps faster. Noticable difference. 1 1/4 ounces of shot in both hulls, the lead load being in 2 3/4 inch cases and the steel load in 3 inch cases.


Re: Best #2 load for feral hogs [Re: rickt300] #15424257 11/17/20
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Ah, that would explain some discrepancies then. Nothing is equal among the loads, apart from shot diameter. wink


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Re: Best #2 load for feral hogs [Re: hh4whiskey] #15424522 11/17/20
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Well maybe but to look at the two it seems the steel shot is smaller and it does pattern better.

Re: Best #2 load for feral hogs [Re: rickt300] #15431774 11/19/20
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Well, either they’re both #2 in size, or they’re not, and one or both are not to spec. There’s decades of evidence, science, and physics that show that (all else being equal), the heavier (for diameter), spherical projectile penetrates more on game. Most duck hunters have comprehended this since the 80’s. Higher initial velocity only helps steel inside 30-40.....so I could see some similarity at short range, if that’s the only place you’re using it. I’d still pick copper plated lead #4s over #2 steel, for just about anything I was allowed to.

Re: Best #2 load for feral hogs [Re: rickt300] #15432943 11/19/20
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Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
You sure you didn’t mean the steel load kicks LESS?


Nope same payload 200 fps faster. Noticable difference. 1 1/4 ounces of shot in both hulls, the lead load being in 2 3/4 inch cases and the steel load in 3 inch cases.


Thats why steel is ballistically inferior to lead, needs to be pushed harder.

If you are stuck with #2 shot have you considered heavier payloads. A 3" shotshelll can throw up to 1 7/8oz of lead shot, 3.5" 12ga can throw 2.25oz loads so its almost 2 for 1 compared to regular 12ga. The pigs you shot so far are about the size of large dogs. Might find a jump to 2-3 x bodyweight tests your setup.

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Originally Posted by 158XTP
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
You sure you didn’t mean the steel load kicks LESS?


Nope same payload 200 fps faster. Noticable difference. 1 1/4 ounces of shot in both hulls, the lead load being in 2 3/4 inch cases and the steel load in 3 inch cases.


Thats why steel is ballistically inferior to lead, needs to be pushed harder.

If you are stuck with #2 shot have you considered heavier payloads. A 3" shotshelll can throw up to 1 7/8oz of lead shot, 3.5" 12ga can throw 2.25oz loads so its almost 2 for 1 compared to regular 12ga. The pigs you shot so far are about the size of large dogs. Might find a jump to 2-3 x bodyweight tests your setup.


Being stuck with #2 shot size and shooting from a tree stand I think 1 1/4 oz of #2's works just fine. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot any sized hog with anything I have on hand. Seems to me just about anything hit with either load around the neck head area is going to have problems pretty fast.

Re: Best #2 load for feral hogs [Re: rickt300] #15439691 11/21/20
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if you feel birdshot is okay on 200-300lbs hogs at 30 yards, its good you are up a tree is all I am saying

Re: Best #2 load for feral hogs [Re: 158XTP] #15439750 11/21/20
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Originally Posted by 158XTP
if you feel birdshot is okay on 200-300lbs hogs at 30 yards, its good you are up a tree is all I am saying


No I am required by the regs to use that load. Okay well bring the fat one on.

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