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gold cup or national match 45 #15391152 11/07/20
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I am in he market to buy another 1911 and am considering one of these models
What t is the difference in them besides name and price?
Is there a quality advantage to series 80 or is there a better, newer model to consider?
I will use it as a carry gun while working around the farm, informal shooting.
Thanks for any advice you may offer
Phil

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Re: gold cup or national match 45 [Re: labsandelk] #15391277 11/07/20
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I'd get one with fixed sights. The NM is strictly competition with features for Bullseye.

Re: gold cup or national match 45 [Re: labsandelk] #15392396 11/07/20
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Love my new-ish Gold Cup. Very good value, IMO.

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Re: gold cup or national match 45 [Re: labsandelk] #15392455 11/08/20
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What type of holster are you using? are you restricted to using target loads?

Re: gold cup or national match 45 [Re: labsandelk] #15392460 11/08/20
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You want the best? Go with the current Gold Cup Trophy. It has it all. You might want to change out those damn blue grip panels.


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You want the best, buy a Sig.

The only thing different about a Gold Cup is name & price, highly overrated & inflated price.


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The new Gold Cups are superb pistols. The Kensight rear is a copy of the old BoMar (which was a very rugged rear sight) and inletted into the slide. Aluminum adjustable trigger. Series 70 firing system. I've had a couple thousand rounds of hard ball and SWC target stuff thru this one without a malfunction. The trigger was pretty good out of the box.
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Re: gold cup or national match 45 [Re: labsandelk] #15397380 11/09/20
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The Colt's of today are just freaking outstanding. They're WAAAY better than the vaunted "Series 70" (the most overrated Colt's ever). The build quality is more like pre-Series 70 guns, but the bluing just isn't as nice as it used to be. Mostly because they do a little less polishing, and now use a new bluing solution that is a bit more matte in appearance.

But when it comes to actual shooting. Current products are more reliable, and generally more accurate. Triggers are better, sights are better, and most of the internals (not all) are still made in the old way. Personally, I think Colt has been flat killing it for the past 15 years, and they're just getting better.

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Originally Posted by labsandelk
I am in he market to buy another 1911 and am considering one of these models
What t is the difference in them besides name and price?
Is there a quality advantage to series 80 or is there a better, newer model to consider?
I will use it as a carry gun while working around the farm, informal shooting.
Thanks for any advice you may offer
Phil

So the Gold Cup is setup like a classic bullseye pistol. The Gold Cup Trophy is more like a combat competition pistol. Take a look at the two and see which one fits your style. I'm a sucker for the classics, but I own 1911's with all the modern features too.

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
Originally Posted by labsandelk
I am in he market to buy another 1911 and am considering one of these models
What t is the difference in them besides name and price?
Is there a quality advantage to series 80 or is there a better, newer model to consider?
I will use it as a carry gun while working around the farm, informal shooting.
Thanks for any advice you may offer
Phil

So the Gold Cup National Match is setup like a classic bullseye pistol. The Gold Cup Trophy is more like a combat competition pistol. Take a look at the two and see which one fits your style. I'm a sucker for the classics, but I own 1911's with all the modern features too.
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Originally Posted by GunGeek
The Colt's of today are just freaking outstanding. They're WAAAY better than the vaunted "Series 70" (the most overrated Colt's ever). The build quality is more like pre-Series 70 guns, but the bluing just isn't as nice as it used to be. Mostly because they do a little less polishing, and now use a new bluing solution that is a bit more matte in appearance.

But when it comes to actual shooting. Current products are more reliable, and generally more accurate. Triggers are better, sights are better, and most of the internals (not all) are still made in the old way. Personally, I think Colt has been flat killing it for the past 15 years, and they're just getting better.
I agree. I've owned 1911 types from pre-series 70 through present-day and the current guns are the best. If you wanted something that fed anything but Ball with regularity, you HAD to get a Gold Cup in the old series 70 days.

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Originally Posted by Reloder28
You want the best, buy a Sig.

The only thing different about a Gold Cup is name & price, highly overrated & inflated price.



You just gonna throw out the best and leave it with SIG lmao.


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Originally Posted by Reloder28
You want the best, buy a Sig.

The only thing different about a Gold Cup is name & price, highly overrated & inflated price.

Why would someone buy a 1911 with the wrong name on it? grin

Re: gold cup or national match 45 [Re: labsandelk] #15398921 11/09/20
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If you mean a real NM, before either Series 70 or 80, I'd take that all day if it's good..............if it is, then it's a real gem.

Gold Cups are nice guns & I have mint condition Series 70 version, but I'd snatch up a pre-70 NM in a heartbeat.

Having said than, all the current guns are better IMO, than any of the Series 80's guns.

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
The Colt's of today are just freaking outstanding. They're WAAAY better than the vaunted "Series 70" (the most overrated Colt's ever). The build quality is more like pre-Series 70 guns, but the bluing just isn't as nice as it used to be. Mostly because they do a little less polishing, and now use a new bluing solution that is a bit more matte in appearance.

But when it comes to actual shooting. Current products are more reliable, and generally more accurate. Triggers are better, sights are better, and most of the internals (not all) are still made in the old way. Personally, I think Colt has been flat killing it for the past 15 years, and they're just getting better.



Colt's have always been overrated & still are.


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Originally Posted by Reloder28
Originally Posted by GunGeek
The Colt's of today are just freaking outstanding. They're WAAAY better than the vaunted "Series 70" (the most overrated Colt's ever). The build quality is more like pre-Series 70 guns, but the bluing just isn't as nice as it used to be. Mostly because they do a little less polishing, and now use a new bluing solution that is a bit more matte in appearance.

But when it comes to actual shooting. Current products are more reliable, and generally more accurate. Triggers are better, sights are better, and most of the internals (not all) are still made in the old way. Personally, I think Colt has been flat killing it for the past 15 years, and they're just getting better.



Colt's have always been overrated & still are.


Me too, for the price of a 70's series NM or current model, the Dan Wesson better choice

Re: gold cup or national match 45 [Re: labsandelk] #15422661 11/16/20
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Originally Posted by labsandelk
I am in he market to buy another 1911 and am considering one of these models
What t is the difference in them besides name and price?
Is there a quality advantage to series 80 or is there a better, newer model to consider?
I will use it as a carry gun while working around the farm, informal shooting.
Thanks for any advice you may offer
Phil



Look into a Special Combat Government. I think you'll be very impressed


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The best ‘value’ in a Colt is the competition series. They have a NM marked barrel, beaver tail, Novak sights (FO front), slim extended thumb safety, great high grip undercut, and superb VZ grips.

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I have a 1962 NM available if at all interested... not a collector grade, a great shooter grade.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by GunGeek
The Colt's of today are just freaking outstanding. They're WAAAY better than the vaunted "Series 70" (the most overrated Colt's ever). The build quality is more like pre-Series 70 guns, but the bluing just isn't as nice as it used to be. Mostly because they do a little less polishing, and now use a new bluing solution that is a bit more matte in appearance.

But when it comes to actual shooting. Current products are more reliable, and generally more accurate. Triggers are better, sights are better, and most of the internals (not all) are still made in the old way. Personally, I think Colt has been flat killing it for the past 15 years, and they're just getting better.
I agree. I've owned 1911 types from pre-series 70 through present-day and the current guns are the best. If you wanted something that fed anything but Ball with regularity, you HAD to get a Gold Cup in the old series 70 days.

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Same here. Very happy with the new ones..


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