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elections are over, who ever controls the voting machine soft ware decides the elections


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Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
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Hell No! Democrats forfeited the election when they cheated.


Except and accept that they didn't cheat.

Just give it up. Didn't happen.
................Of course election fraud and cheating did not occur by the demCRAPS within your tiny pea brain the size of a molecule.........Stayed tuned there bonehead.


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Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
It was time long, long ago. He still needs to accept that he didn't win the popular votes in 2016 - he lost that to Hillary, of all people smile .

........................Mr. LYIN LaaaaROY. Mr. IGNORANT as well.....Majority popular vote does not win the presidency there DUMMY. 270 or more electoral college votes does Mr. Moron!


Yes, sigh, we all know that. We also know how uptight the Cheetos Jesus became when he learned that he had not won the popular vote as well. He is still claiming he won that, even though he lost the pop vote by 3million plus. Now he has lost the pop vote again, this time by twice as much AND he lost the electoral vote. But we all know that. All of us except the Orange Jesus.

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Originally Posted by Dixie_Dude
No, with all the votes stolen and the dead people voting. More votes than people living in Detroit. Mail in ballots haven't been investigated. The list is long. Creepy Joe didn't get more votes than Obama who was far more popular with the left.

Trump should call on us to RESIST, like Hillary Clinton did when she lost. We should pray, protest, and fight for election reform. Remove dead people from voter rolls. Don't use computer voting, especially those tied to the internet and no paper ballot. Push for voter ID. Fight against gun control, fight against speech control, otherwise people who thing gay marriage is a sin could be arrested for "hate speech". You guys know the gun control angle. Our country has pushed too far to the left. This is not the country I grew up in. Now Oregon's governor is calling on people to call the police if they see neighbors with too many people in the household. If we have to, we must take to the streets starting with peacefull protests.

IF Joe Biden is to be sworn in in January, Trump supporters need to show up and yell for Trump and against Joe Biden. Loud and clear message.

They even estimate 3 million illegals voted in the last election. Mostly in California.

If we don't resist and force election reform, a Republican may never be president again.


Literally nothing you said is true. 250,138 votes in Detroit. 37% of the population.

In all of US history, there have only been 1200 deceased voters proven to exist.

There's no evidence of 3,000,000 illegal immigrants voting. Many millions of legal immigrants did vote, but legally, as they have become citizens.

You can't stop people from having gay marriages just like they can't force you to have one. Freedom of religion comes along with freedom from religion whether we like it or not.

Oh, you are right about one thing. This isn't the country you grew up with. In fact, it's never the country anyone grew up with because it changes all of the time. Whether we like it or not a lot of people voted for Biden. Who knows what will happen in four years. If he screws up, I suspect the pendulum swings back.

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Originally Posted by MikeReilly



Literally nothing you said is true. 250,138 votes in Detroit. 37% of the population.

In all of US history, there have only been 1200 deceased voters proven to exist.

There's no evidence of 3,000,000 illegal immigrants voting. Many millions of legal immigrants did vote, but legally, as they have become citizens.

You can't stop people from having gay marriages just like they can't force you to have one. Freedom of religion comes along with freedom from religion whether we like it or not.

Oh, you are right about one thing. This isn't the country you grew up with. In fact, it's never the country anyone grew up with because it changes all of the time. Whether we like it or not a lot of people voted for Biden. Who knows what will happen in four years. If he screws up, I suspect the pendulum swings back.


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Originally Posted by MikeReilly
Literally nothing you said is true. 250,138 votes in Detroit. 37% of the population.

In all of US history, there have only been 1200 deceased voters proven to exist.

There's no evidence of 3,000,000 illegal immigrants voting. Many millions of legal immigrants did vote, but legally, as they have become citizens.

You can't stop people from having gay marriages just like they can't force you to have one. Freedom of religion comes along with freedom from religion whether we like it or not.

Oh, you are right about one thing. This isn't the country you grew up with. In fact, it's never the country anyone grew up with because it changes all of the time. Whether we like it or not a lot of people voted for Biden. Who knows what will happen in four years. If he screws up, I suspect the pendulum swings back.


Why is this so hard for so many to grasp. It's just the way it is, and the way it will be. That part hasn't changed.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by MikeReilly



Literally nothing you said is true. 250,138 votes in Detroit. 37% of the population.

In all of US history, there have only been 1200 deceased voters proven to exist.

There's no evidence of 3,000,000 illegal immigrants voting. Many millions of legal immigrants did vote, but legally, as they have become citizens.

You can't stop people from having gay marriages just like they can't force you to have one. Freedom of religion comes along with freedom from religion whether we like it or not.

Oh, you are right about one thing. This isn't the country you grew up with. In fact, it's never the country anyone grew up with because it changes all of the time. Whether we like it or not a lot of people voted for Biden. Who knows what will happen in four years. If he screws up, I suspect the pendulum swings back.


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Are you jealous, girl?

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Originally Posted by Hogwild7
I don't believe this one can be fixed or corrected. But he still have a couple of months to expose the cheating so maybe it can be fixed for next time.
This has been going on for too long first world country doesn't need a third world style election system.


If there is cheating, I sure hope it's found quickly and dealt with. So far the results in court have not given much hope of finding any. Cases have been thrown out by Democrat judges and Republican judges, usually for lack of evidence to support the case.

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Originally Posted by Mark1960
BBC news
US election 2020: Trump ally Chris Christie urges him to accept defeat

A prominent ally of Donald Trump has urged him to drop his efforts to overturn his loss to Joe Biden in the US presidential election.

Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie called the president's legal team a "national embarrassment".

President Trump has refused to concede the election, making unsubstantiated claims of widespread electoral fraud.

Many Republicans have supported his legal efforts but a small but growing number have broken ranks.

On Saturday Mr Trump suffered a major blow in Pennsylvania, after a judge dismissed a lawsuit from the Trump campaign seeking to invalidate millions of mail-in votes in the battleground state.

In a scathing ruling, Judge Matthew Brann said his court had been presented with "strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations".

Can Trump overturn the election result?
Five US election fraud claims fact-checked
What is the electoral college?
The move paves the way for Pennsylvania to certify Mr Biden's win - the Democratic president-elect leads there by more than 80,000 votes.

The certification is due to happen later on Monday, but the Trump campaign is appealing against the ruling.

Mr Biden is projected to defeat President Trump 306 to 232 in the US electoral college, which determines who becomes president - far above the 270 he needs to win.

What's wrong with Trump's legal efforts?
Speaking to ABC's This Week programme on Sunday, Mr Christie, a former New Jersey governor, said: "Quite frankly, the conduct of the president's legal team has been a national embarrassment".

He said the Trump camp was often discussing election fraud "outside the courtroom, but when they go inside the courtroom they don't plead fraud and they don't argue fraud".

"I have been a supporter of the president's. I voted for him twice. But elections have consequences, and we cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didn't happen."

Attorney Sidney Powell, a member of US President Donald J Trump's legal team, speaks about the president's legal challenges to his election loss to President-elect Joe Biden in the Republican National Committee Headquarters in Washington, DC, USA, 19 November 2020
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image captionSidney Powell made unsubstantiated claims at a news conference by Trump's legal team on Thursday
Mr Christie was the first governor to endorse Mr Trump as a presidential candidate back in 2016. He also helped prepare the US president for his debates with Mr Biden earlier this year.

He singled out for criticism Sidney Powell, a lawyer who appeared with Trump's legal team during a press conference on Thursday. She claimed, without providing evidence, that electronic voting systems switched millions of ballots to Biden, and that he also won thanks to "communist money".
Christi is a bloviating blowhard, who will not recognize that Trump has every legal and Constitutional right to do what he is doing by challenging the election. Christi is nothing more than an establishment RINO.


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Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by MikeReilly



Literally nothing you said is true. 250,138 votes in Detroit. 37% of the population.

In all of US history, there have only been 1200 deceased voters proven to exist.

There's no evidence of 3,000,000 illegal immigrants voting. Many millions of legal immigrants did vote, but legally, as they have become citizens.

You can't stop people from having gay marriages just like they can't force you to have one. Freedom of religion comes along with freedom from religion whether we like it or not.

Oh, you are right about one thing. This isn't the country you grew up with. In fact, it's never the country anyone grew up with because it changes all of the time. Whether we like it or not a lot of people voted for Biden. Who knows what will happen in four years. If he screws up, I suspect the pendulum swings back.


Who bitch this is?


Are you jealous, girl?


Says the guy who said this about corona deaths

Originally Posted by LeroyBeans




So the 250 million that died are all faking it - to avoid taxes I suppose, or ???



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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Christi is a bloviating blowhard, who will not recognize that Trump has every legal and Constitutional right to do what he is doing by challenging the election. Christi is nothing more than an establishment RINO.


Right. At this point, I don't think he's going to prevail, but Trump has not merely the right, but IMHO has an **obligation** to every person who supported him to continue the fight until all legal avenues have been exhausted. We're not there yet.

More than that, he has an obligation to try because in doing so, he exposes voter fraud which could change the outcome of future elections. We need to be able to rely on the integrity of our election processes, election officials, and our ballots. We do not get there ignoring fraud or even potential / unproven fraud. All instances must be fully investigated and, where evidence substantiating a crime is found, must be fully prosecuted.

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Originally Posted by UncleAlps
We can't control what happens nor when.

So just sit back and enjoy the show.

Whether you think that Biden's party cheated or not there is no harm allowing Trump and his lawyers the opportunity to file their complaints. It needs to be aired out and resolved one way or the other. Then we will all know the truth and can move forward.

Why are so many afraid to let the legal challenge process take place? A little price to pay to preserve the integrity of our electoral process.


This is a calm and rational way to think about the current situation. If they can prove their case, so be it and then we'll have to see what happens next.

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Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by MikeReilly



Literally nothing you said is true. 250,138 votes in Detroit. 37% of the population.

In all of US history, there have only been 1200 deceased voters proven to exist.

There's no evidence of 3,000,000 illegal immigrants voting. Many millions of legal immigrants did vote, but legally, as they have become citizens.

You can't stop people from having gay marriages just like they can't force you to have one. Freedom of religion comes along with freedom from religion whether we like it or not.

Oh, you are right about one thing. This isn't the country you grew up with. In fact, it's never the country anyone grew up with because it changes all of the time. Whether we like it or not a lot of people voted for Biden. Who knows what will happen in four years. If he screws up, I suspect the pendulum swings back.


Who bitch this is?


Are you jealous, girl?


Says the guy who said this about corona deaths

Originally Posted by LeroyBeans




So the 250 million that died are all faking it - to avoid taxes I suppose, or ???




Hyperbole, exaggeration - look'em up. I'm trying to keep up with you guys in fantasy land.

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Originally Posted by MikeReilly
Originally Posted by Dixie_Dude
No, with all the votes stolen and the dead people voting. More votes than people living in Detroit. Mail in ballots haven't been investigated. The list is long. Creepy Joe didn't get more votes than Obama who was far more popular with the left.

Trump should call on us to RESIST, like Hillary Clinton did when she lost. We should pray, protest, and fight for election reform. Remove dead people from voter rolls. Don't use computer voting, especially those tied to the internet and no paper ballot. Push for voter ID. Fight against gun control, fight against speech control, otherwise people who thing gay marriage is a sin could be arrested for "hate speech". You guys know the gun control angle. Our country has pushed too far to the left. This is not the country I grew up in. Now Oregon's governor is calling on people to call the police if they see neighbors with too many people in the household. If we have to, we must take to the streets starting with peacefull protests.

IF Joe Biden is to be sworn in in January, Trump supporters need to show up and yell for Trump and against Joe Biden. Loud and clear message.

They even estimate 3 million illegals voted in the last election. Mostly in California.

If we don't resist and force election reform, a Republican may never be president again.


Literally nothing you said is true. 250,138 votes in Detroit. 37% of the population.

In all of US history, there have only been 1200 deceased voters proven to exist.

There's no evidence of 3,000,000 illegal immigrants voting. Many millions of legal immigrants did vote, but legally, as they have become citizens.

You can't stop people from having gay marriages just like they can't force you to have one. Freedom of religion comes along with freedom from religion whether we like it or not.

Oh, you are right about one thing. This isn't the country you grew up with. In fact, it's never the country anyone grew up with because it changes all of the time. Whether we like it or not a lot of people voted for Biden. Who knows what will happen in four years. If he screws up, I suspect the pendulum swings back.



This is not about individual rights or the country changing naturally over time. This is a question of is our country a Republic or not? Does our votes count, or are we just a fricking Communist country where anybody's rights can be taken away at the drop of a hat...Is this a country now where crooked politicians and judges can just change laws on their own and not follow established laws because they decided on their own "Orange man is bad"? This crap is not going away, this goes to the foundation of what our country was built on, what thousands of our ancestors died for... If it is found out that their was widespread fraud that helped the Dems win this election, their had better be hell to pay for the people involved in stealing it...

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"Donald Trump Will Not Be Your President"

Ya, ya, ya we've all heard it before! Some people can be wrong a thousand times in a row and still argue there ignorance!

I hate to do this but I will remind some of you ignorant SOBs that in 2016 when everyone said Trump has zero chance I said he would win the nomination and the election!

GO BACK AND LOOK IT UP

LIKEWISE SHOW ME WHERE YOUVE BEEN CORRECT AT ANY POINT IN THIS JOURNEY AND I WILL BEGIN TO BELIEVE THE STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE!

In fairness a few have accurately called a lot of events so perhaps it might be worth a listening ear if your not a dillusional liberal basement dwelling Acid Freak



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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by MikeReilly



Literally nothing you said is true. 250,138 votes in Detroit. 37% of the population.

In all of US history, there have only been 1200 deceased voters proven to exist.

There's no evidence of 3,000,000 illegal immigrants voting. Many millions of legal immigrants did vote, but legally, as they have become citizens.

You can't stop people from having gay marriages just like they can't force you to have one. Freedom of religion comes along with freedom from religion whether we like it or not.

Oh, you are right about one thing. This isn't the country you grew up with. In fact, it's never the country anyone grew up with because it changes all of the time. Whether we like it or not a lot of people voted for Biden. Who knows what will happen in four years. If he screws up, I suspect the pendulum swings back.


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Trump didn't lose.


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Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by MikeReilly



Literally nothing you said is true. 250,138 votes in Detroit. 37% of the population.

In all of US history, there have only been 1200 deceased voters proven to exist.

There's no evidence of 3,000,000 illegal immigrants voting. Many millions of legal immigrants did vote, but legally, as they have become citizens.

You can't stop people from having gay marriages just like they can't force you to have one. Freedom of religion comes along with freedom from religion whether we like it or not.

Oh, you are right about one thing. This isn't the country you grew up with. In fact, it's never the country anyone grew up with because it changes all of the time. Whether we like it or not a lot of people voted for Biden. Who knows what will happen in four years. If he screws up, I suspect the pendulum swings back.


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Originally Posted by las
Trump didn't lose.


And you know that how?

Prove it. Plain and simple, put up or shut up. Or babble on hysterically.

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Originally Posted by Ramdiesel

This is not about individual rights or the country changing naturally over time. This is a question of is our country a Republic or not? Does our votes count, or are we just a fricking Communist country where anybody's rights can be taken away at the drop of a hat...Is this a country now where crooked politicians and judges can just change laws on their own and not follow established laws because they decided on their own "Orange man is bad"? This crap is not going away, this goes to the foundation of what our country was built on, what thousands of our ancestors died for... If it is found out that their was widespread fraud that helped the Dems win this election, their had better be hell to pay for the people involved in stealing it...


I agree completely - exhaust all legal channels to try to prove the case. That said, if you can't prove it in front of either Democrat or Republican judges it might be time to move on. I'm much more interested in an election being fair than in who won.

As to the constitutionality (State constitution) of Pennsylvania's Act 77, it is an interesting question. It was passed by a Republican majority house 138-61 and unanimously in the State senate. Why it didn't include an amendment to the constitution is perplexing. Equally perplexing is why nobody challenged it a year ago when it was first passed. A final question to be asked is whether this is justification to disenfranchise three million voters. I suspect that if a court finds the act unconstitutional, the act will be rescinded, but the election will stand as there was ample time to challenge this before the election.

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