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Left has a new tack on gun control and a new attack on "assault weapons" - tax them into oblivion. Got 8-10 black rifles, SKS, HKs, AK platforms? Then have 1 13 page registration and a $200 per YEAR tax on the "Right" to own them. Not unconstitutional, folks,they will still allow you to "own" them...unless you don't pay the yearly tax. That would be about $2600/yr for me, if you don't include unmilled lower AR receivers. Oh, and I wouldn't try that (they got lost at the the bottom of the lake" stuff. I'm sure that if you can prove transfer, you will be liable for prosecution, fines, and prison time. Obama was right, elections have consequences.
NEWS & POLITICS
Report: Biden's Gun Tax Plan Would Cost Gun Owners $34 Billion
BY RICK MORAN NOV 18, 2020 1:50 PM ET
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(AP Photo/Elaine Thompson, File)
Joe Biden’s plan to tax gun owners for the right to keep and bear arms could reach as high as $34 billion, according to an analysis by the Washington Free Beacon.
On the campaign trail, Biden made several promises relating to guns that he is going to have a hard time getting through Congress. Assigning liability for gun deaths to manufacturers is only the tip of the iceberg. Biden’s far-reaching program would drive online gun retailers out of business, which would include retailers selling gun supplies. It would force owners of AR-15s and other similar weapons to either sell them or register them with the government — paying $200 for the privilege.
The plan appears to harass and punish gun owners and manufacturers — simply because liberals hate guns.
Biden wants to ban new sales of AR-15 rifles and similar firearms as well as any ammunition magazine holding more than 10 rounds—sizes that come standard on most modern rifles and handguns. He would pay some owners to surrender the affected guns they legally own and force everyone else to register the guns under the National Firearms Act. The proposal would require owners to pay a $200 tax stamp for each item.
The report said the kinds of rifles Biden wants to ban made up nearly half of all rifles produced in 2018. Oliva said the group’s estimates may actually be undercounts. While NSSF used the latest Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives manufacturer reports, those only cover up to 2018, and Oliva said AR-15s have continued to grow in popularity since then.
An entire industry is under threat. How many small gun shops will be able to survive such restrictions? Gun manufacturers may as well declare bankruptcy now if Biden gets his way and is able to hold manufacturers responsible for some gang banger’s murder. States, cities, and private citizens will line up with their eyes lit up with dollar signs for the opportunity to reach into some deep pockets.
The report, which was released Monday, also found that 11.4 million firearms were made or imported into the United States in 2018. A further 9.3 million were made or imported in 2019. That brings the total number of firearms on the American market between 1991 and 2019 up to nearly 214 million.
Oliva said those numbers, combined with the fact that Americans increasingly favor AR-15s and other rifles targeted by Biden and gun-control advocates, are evidence the country is not interested in strict new gun laws.
“America’s attitude on gun control is shifting more toward the idea that we need to protect our rights and away from the idea we need government control of our destiny,” he said.
So why is Biden looking to crack down so heavily? The simple answer is that his biggest supporters are demanding it. Liberal blacks and other far left minorities, radical socialists, and liberal Democrats all agree that attacking gun owners and manufacturers is politically feasible. They aren’t stupid enough to believe the violence will let up one iota if they’re successful. But that’s not what this is about.
Gun owners are their political opponents. Sticking it to gun owners will help “transform” America. Disarming citizens will make people far more dependent on the government for protection, and thus, more dependent overall.
This is an issue where the slippery slope is clearly in view. And the left makes no effort to hide their ultimate goal of disarming every law-abiding citizen who owns a gun.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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What guns? I sold all of mine for $25 and 2 cases of beer more than 5 years ago. Just sayin...
You get out of life what you are willing to accept. If you ain't happy, do something about it!
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You can thank traitors like CowboyTim......
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Amazing to me how many of you fuggers have already thrown in the towel.
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What guns? I sold all of mine for $25 and 2 cases of beer more than 5 years ago. Just sayin... I'll tell them I gifted them to various people who also gave them away. You and I will probably end up in the same cell once Biden's Atty General is done with us.......
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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More than just gun problems:
Salute the American flag or the national anthem, as we will not be allowed to repeat them in schools or sporting events.
The extra dollars President Trump let us keep, in taxes, to provide for our families.
Will not have to worry about choosing what schools our children will attend, i.e. charter, magnet, private, as at least some of those schools may be eliminated.
Will not have a voice in what our children are taught in public schools. The government will be able to have complete control of our children.
Will not have to spend any more dollars on the wall because the wall will be torn down.
Will not have to call the police when we see a crime being committed because the police might be defunded and we won’t have any police.
Biden promised the job of confiscating the all the guns of Americans.
Medical care for all.
Pack the supreme court.
Will no longer produce oil and gas needed to continue our civilization as we know it.
No more electoral college system.
Enter back into Iran deal.
Enter back into paris climate treaty.
Segregationists in back democrats party.
KKK and white supremacist back in the democrat party.
China is back in control of America.
Higher taxes for all but especially the middle class.
Total shut down until virus is controlled.
Antifa grows stronger and more rioting.
The swamp grows much larger.
The biden family gets richer.
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I may be wrong, but It seems to me that would fall along the same lines as a poll tax.
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First time he tries it - it'll be litigated out of existence... WHEN, ( not if) it gets to the SCOTUS, they'll shove it right down his throat.. .
Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69
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LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
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You can thank traitors like CowboyTim...... Hahahaha! Poor little Timmy just doing what he thought was best for you.....he don't like AR's anyway...
I am MAGA.
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You can thank traitors like CowboyTim...... There are cowboys on this board. I know a couple. CowboyTim ain't no fugkin cowboy.
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Not defending it, but I’m pretty sure it is not $200 per year. It is just the standard $200 tax that goes with NFA items right now. It’s a one time deal. It would still be a lot because it includes magazines.
The biggest thing is the ban of online sales of parts, components, and ammo. That would seriously impact most of us.
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I may be wrong, but It seems to me that would fall along the same lines as a poll tax. The Supreme Court will be expanded to 13 members, and we will have four new Ginsberg, Sotomayor, and Kagan, types installed to take care of that.
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First time he tries it - it'll be litigated out of existence... WHEN, ( not if) it gets to the SCOTUS, they'll shove it right down his throat.. . Appeal to SCOTUS. Down his throat it goes. Chameleon lying chkunt.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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This is just the beginning if Biden is inaugurated as president. The radical left will control the Democrat party and vigorously enact their agenda including gun control, climate change legislation, restrictions on free speech, restrictions on oil and gas production and all the other things that will increase the size of the federal government and destroy the economy. We will get no protection from the courts and elections will be meaningless.
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Any such effort would end up in SCOTUS and would rightly be bounced right out.
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I see lots of boating accidents in the future.
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First time he tries it - it'll be litigated out of existence... WHEN, ( not if) it gets to the SCOTUS, they'll shove it right down his throat.. . K Appeal to SCOTUS. Down his throat it goes. Chameleon lying chkunt. The SCOTUS could also uphold the ruling by a vote of 9 to 4 if the left has their way...
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Any such effort would end up in SCOTUS and would rightly be bounced right out. If they don't pack the court, SCOTUS might strike it down in 2027.
The collection of taxes which are not absolutely required, which do not beyond reasonable doubt contribute to public welfare, is only a species of legalized larceny. Under this Republic the rewards of industry belong to those who earn them. Coolidge
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First time he tries it - it'll be litigated out of existence... WHEN, ( not if) it gets to the SCOTUS, they'll shove it right down his throat.. . Appeal to SCOTUS. Down his throat it goes. Chameleon lying chkunt. The SCOTUS could also uphold the ruling by a vote of 9 to 4 if the left has their way... The Republican party better get hot on focusing on the Senate races in GA and doing everything within their power to ensure a fair and legal election process.
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I don’t have much faith in SCOTUS. They didn’t save us from a clearly unconstitutional Obamacare. They won’t for this either. You will be better served to get in the ears of your states, particularly if you live in a Red State. Let them know that this is a no compromise issue that will open a Pandora’s box where no one wants to go.
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