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Some can conjure up a conspiracy about anything. I don't thing there is one. BamBam hit the nail on the head though. I find numbers more convincing. I never see numbers. Did you see the NICS numbers I posted. They don't seem as "through the roof" as portrayed in media. They seem to be on a more steady increase. I see your point though ... we've never seen anyone conspire before.Nah, not here. LOL From a business perspective, these numbers are huge. October 2020, the last month for data, is a 38% increase! A quick eyeball of the months since the pandemic began appear to be similar in growth. Think about this: few businesses can meet a 38% increase in immediate demand. If they can, their utilization of capital is very poor. I know of businesses that are currently having a difficult time keeping their operations running due to covid related illnesses. What do you do if you don't have enough people show up to run the place? Put the tinfoil away, the only conspiracy is a confluence of negative events that is hampering many industries at this time. 405wcf
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Some can conjure up a conspiracy about anything. I don't thing there is one. BamBam hit the nail on the head though. I find numbers more convincing. I never see numbers. Did you see the NICS numbers I posted. They don't seem as "through the roof" as portrayed in media. They seem to be on a more steady increase. I see your point though ... we've never seen anyone conspire before.Nah, not here. LOL From a business perspective, these numbers are huge. October 2020, the last month for data, is a 38% increase! A quick eyeball of the months since the pandemic began appear to be similar in growth. Think about this: few businesses can meet a 38% increase in immediate demand. If they can, their utilization of capital is very poor. I know of businesses that are currently having a difficult time keeping their operations running due to covid related illnesses. What do you do if you don't have enough people show up to run the place? Put the tinfoil away, the only conspiracy is a confluence of negative events that is hampering many industries at this time. 405wcf EXCELLENT POST!
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Some can conjure up a conspiracy about anything. I don't thing there is one. BamBam hit the nail on the head though. I find numbers more convincing. I never see numbers. Did you see the NICS numbers I posted. They don't seem as "through the roof" as portrayed in media. They seem to be on a more steady increase. I see your point though ... we've never seen anyone conspire before.Nah, not here. LOL From a business perspective, these numbers are huge. October 2020, the last month for data, is a 38% increase! A quick eyeball of the months since the pandemic began appear to be similar in growth. Think about this: few businesses can meet a 38% increase in immediate demand. If they can, their utilization of capital is very poor. I know of businesses that are currently having a difficult time keeping their operations running due to covid related illnesses. What do you do if you don't have enough people show up to run the place? Put the tinfoil away, the only conspiracy is a confluence of negative events that is hampering many industries at this time. 405wcf I agree. I also wonder if the manufacturers ship to their best customers first. The trickle down to the general public will be slow indeed.
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405wcf: Just talked this morning with a gun store owner and he told me he has NOT had an ammunition shipment of ANY KIND in OVER 3 months! Normally he gets two shipments a week! So that may fly in the face of your "not keeping up with an increase in demand" theory? I mean there should have been a shipment of something in the last 10 days wouldn't you think even if demand was/is high? I have NO idea what or who is causing this latest shortage (I do guess that it is politically/fear instigated) all I do know is, IT'S BAD! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Some can conjure up a conspiracy about anything. I don't thing there is one. BamBam hit the nail on the head though. I find numbers more convincing. I never see numbers. Did you see the NICS numbers I posted. They don't seem as "through the roof" as portrayed in media. They seem to be on a more steady increase. I see your point though ... we've never seen anyone conspire before.Nah, not here. LOL From a business perspective, these numbers are huge. October 2020, the last month for data, is a 38% increase! A quick eyeball of the months since the pandemic began appear to be similar in growth. Think about this: few businesses can meet a 38% increase in immediate demand. If they can, their utilization of capital is very poor. I know of businesses that are currently having a difficult time keeping their operations running due to covid related illnesses. What do you do if you don't have enough people show up to run the place? Put the tinfoil away, the only conspiracy is a confluence of negative events that is hampering many industries at this time. 405wcf I agree. I also wonder if the manufacturers ship to their best customers first. The trickle down to the general public will be slow indeed. The manufacturers ship to their distributors. Right now, the place that I just retired from is limited, even from our #1 distributor.
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Some fu:cking 30-30 rounds $5 a piece whointhefuck woulda ever thought they’d see price gouging like this,,, hell I’m gone list some on here for $500 a box
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Some fu:cking 30-30 rounds $5 a piece whointhefuck woulda ever thought they’d see price gouging like this,,, hell I’m gone list some on here for $500 a box This is about half of what I have in commercial big game ammo. All full boxes.
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Hawkeye, you need to shoot your guns more often. Most of those packaging styles haven't been used in many years. That's some old ammo. It's still good but it's old.
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I really liked the Nitrex ammo, handy 5 rd packages. Used it for a couple deer and an elk in my 06 back before I reloaded.
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Hawkeye, you need to shoot your guns more often. Most of those packaging styles haven't been used in many years. That's some old ammo. It's still good but it's old. I shoot plenty, just not commercial big game hunting ammo, other than (back in the day) to compare performance, which only takes a few rounds of each type (which is why I also have a bunch of partially full boxes that are not in that picture. I bought those back twenty or thirty years ago when I occasionally hunted. No point in plinking with them.
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No point in plinking with them. No point in setting on them, either.....
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No point in plinking with them. No point in setting on them, either..... I'd like to find someone who's desperate to get them.
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Maybe this Saturday I'll haul them out to the range and hold up a sign.
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I really liked the Nitrex ammo, handy 5 rd packages. Used it for a couple deer and an elk in my 06 back before I reloaded. I saved the '5 packs' and use them still, just different ammo.
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Demand and manipulation of demand. They have no duty to supply us, purely financially motivated.
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What most don't realize is that wholesale prices haven't gone much at all, just some gouging on the retail level.
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I'm sure demand is way up, but I don't understand how production still seems to lag so enormously. Midsouth shooters don't even allow back orders on much ammunition. What? Does this mean the manufacturers just said you will never get any ammo.
Is it possible to see ammunition production numbers and the distribution of this ammo across the country.
Is ammunition artificially minimized. A box here a box there. I'm very, very skeptical. No shortage of ammo. You folks got to get through your rather thick skulls that you are your own worst enemies. Ask any grade school kid about supply vs. demand and how buying anything that hits the shelves or the internet can help.
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I was doing a look see on my supplies and found 7500 of these in a cabinet I forgot about.
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