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If they are close, you can cook em when you shoot!
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Chase, back to addressing the content of your original question. You haven't said much out the intended purpose of this rifle, so I'll presume typical medium games such as deer hunting. With short barrels, you will get some variance regarding what powders perform the best, but typically it's not enough to worry about until you get below standard carbine lengths. Still sometime I go just a bit warmer on short barrels to reduce the fireball and such. The 150gr NBT will serve well in most roles in your rifle. The biggest problem you would have with this combination is finding a powder that does NOT work. There are many good candidates to choose from. Two I'd consider are CFE-223 and IMR-4895. I would also expect Shooters World Match Rifle to yield good results at only 2/3rd the price. Here's the list of powders Quick Load predicts to produce velocities of at least 2700fps. Of course, this is simulated data, so start low and work up, but you have a lot to choose from.
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 60.345 grain H2O = 3.918 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
66 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 75%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
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Alliant Reloder-17 *T 102.8 60.0 3.89 2902 98.9 59000 14049 0.899 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 107.8 58.4 3.78 2880 97.6 59000 13825 0.897 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 107.6 61.8 4.01 2848 95.1 59000 13694 0.906 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C 107.3 59.0 3.83 2846 97.1 59000 13472 0.911 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 106.8 59.4 3.85 2844 97.1 59000 13537 0.924 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 101.7 59.8 3.88 2842 94.1 59000 13629 0.909 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 101.7 59.8 3.88 2842 94.1 59000 13629 0.909 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C 97.1 58.9 3.82 2842 97.3 59000 13364 0.909 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C 104.1 59.2 3.83 2841 96.9 59000 13564 0.917 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR 104.4 58.1 3.76 2837 96.4 59000 13332 0.908 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game 96.9 57.4 3.72 2829 98.2 59000 13018 0.911 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 96.4 53.7 3.48 2824 98.5 59000 13047 0.921 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 110.0 59.2 3.84 2820 98.7 58561 12708 0.910 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 89.5 53.6 3.47 2817 99.7 59000 12494 0.915 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 97.0 50.5 3.27 2814 100.0 59000 11916 0.920 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 92.0 55.8 3.62 2813 99.2 59000 12799 0.923 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C 97.7 54.4 3.52 2813 98.4 59000 12888 0.922 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C 97.2 54.1 3.50 2813 98.0 59000 12924 0.921 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 99.4 55.9 3.62 2811 99.1 59000 12825 0.931 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 106.0 60.9 3.95 2803 91.2 59000 13166 0.904 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 110.0 65.8 4.26 2803 94.3 51403 14822 0.959 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 93.7 52.1 3.38 2802 98.8 59000 12631 0.921 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 99.2 54.3 3.52 2802 98.3 59000 12491 0.905 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar 92.2 54.8 3.55 2798 98.4 59000 12638 0.917 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 94.0 52.3 3.39 2797 98.4 59000 12629 0.920 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 98.5 56.0 3.63 2796 96.7 59000 12869 0.924 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 99.3 54.0 3.50 2794 100.0 59000 12212 0.951 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle 94.2 54.0 3.50 2794 99.9 59000 12196 0.933 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 94.2 54.0 3.50 2794 99.9 59000 12196 0.933 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 92.1 54.0 3.50 2794 99.9 59000 12196 0.933 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 110.0 60.9 3.94 2789 90.6 57355 13256 0.912 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C 104.7 62.7 4.06 2785 98.9 59000 12288 0.906 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 106.2 58.4 3.79 2784 94.4 59000 12894 0.926 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350 106.2 58.4 3.79 2784 94.4 59000 12894 0.926 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 93.5 50.9 3.30 2781 100.0 59000 11734 0.955 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 *C 90.4 50.6 3.28 2781 99.3 59000 12151 0.917 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Precision 98.2 53.1 3.44 2780 99.3 59000 12228 0.928 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062 98.2 53.1 3.44 2780 99.3 59000 12228 0.928 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 106.8 59.1 3.83 2778 93.3 59000 12668 0.911 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 *T 108.8 59.2 3.84 2777 93.2 59000 12674 0.911 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 85.3 51.8 3.35 2777 100.0 59000 11816 0.919 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET *T 99.6 53.6 3.47 2776 97.8 59000 12336 0.912 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 99.3 53.6 3.47 2776 97.8 59000 12336 0.912 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 *C 94.5 51.7 3.35 2775 100.0 59000 11812 0.925 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 90.3 48.8 3.16 2774 100.0 59000 11491 0.915 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 84.9 48.8 3.16 2774 100.0 59000 11491 0.915 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 109.8 64.4 4.17 2773 91.0 59000 12753 0.905 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp *C *T 92.2 49.6 3.22 2773 100.0 59000 11008 0.923 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR 92.4 51.4 3.33 2773 99.3 59000 12031 0.917 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 100.4 52.7 3.42 2772 98.0 59000 12202 0.916 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 *C 96.8 54.4 3.53 2772 100.0 59000 11925 0.924 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 104.7 57.0 3.69 2770 95.8 59000 12568 0.926 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle 104.7 57.0 3.69 2770 95.8 59000 12568 0.926 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 *C 95.1 51.8 3.35 2769 99.3 59000 12135 0.932 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 *C 106.7 56.0 3.63 2766 99.5 59000 11949 0.923 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 110.0 61.2 3.97 2766 90.4 55323 13270 0.931 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC *C 91.9 55.1 3.57 2766 96.0 59000 12433 0.918 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T 101.7 55.9 3.62 2761 94.0 59000 12441 0.912 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5 88.3 52.7 3.41 2760 99.7 59000 11850 0.937 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 88.0 52.7 3.41 2760 99.7 59000 11850 0.937 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200 91.9 51.9 3.36 2760 97.0 59000 12145 0.914 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C 110.0 63.9 4.14 2757 90.6 51012 14132 0.965 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 *C 103.1 52.0 3.37 2757 100.0 59000 11145 0.929 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 99.9 56.4 3.65 2756 93.3 59000 12477 0.922 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 110.0 58.6 3.80 2755 96.3 54178 12958 0.956 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 87.7 52.8 3.42 2754 98.9 59000 11864 0.929 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator *C 89.6 53.2 3.45 2754 98.3 59000 11995 0.920 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 *C 101.3 54.2 3.51 2752 99.5 59000 11701 0.919 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4 86.8 51.8 3.35 2751 99.7 59000 11669 0.932 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World AR Plus 86.8 51.8 3.35 2751 99.7 59000 11669 0.932 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210 86.0 49.4 3.20 2745 99.7 59000 11540 0.918 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 90.2 51.1 3.31 2743 100.0 59000 11167 0.920 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron *C*T 100.6 53.6 3.47 2739 94.2 59000 12076 0.915 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Tactical Rifle 86.4 51.2 3.32 2739 99.1 59000 11554 0.919 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060 94.2 51.0 3.30 2738 98.5 59000 11665 0.915 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 84.1 49.8 3.23 2737 99.6 59000 11439 0.918 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 91.4 50.1 3.24 2737 99.6 59000 11459 0.918 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x *C 87.8 46.1 2.99 2733 100.0 59000 10790 0.930 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 93.5 51.4 3.33 2729 98.8 59000 11502 0.915 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 90.4 48.1 3.12 2723 100.0 59000 10720 0.936 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 110.0 62.9 4.07 2722 86.0 52736 13338 0.948 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 *C 84.2 45.8 2.97 2711 100.0 59000 10534 0.943 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE BLK *C 83.6 49.3 3.20 2711 99.3 59000 11175 0.919 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 99.7 57.9 3.75 2709 93.0 59000 11744 0.925 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680 76.6 44.4 2.88 2706 100.0 59000 10492 0.915 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 *C 96.2 49.0 3.17 2703 100.0 59000 10377 0.921 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 84.8 44.3 2.87 2701 100.0 59000 10440 0.909 ! Near Maximu
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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It would be very interesting to see a companion chart with the results on a 22" barrel to see if anything changes beside MV.
Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths.
"there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser"
"the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"
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I guess mostly the % of burned propellent.
Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths.
"there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser"
"the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"
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OK, but it will still be irrelevant to the original accuracy question.
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It would be very interesting to see a companion chart with the results on a 22" barrel to see if anything changes beside MV. Here it is for 22" barrel:
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 60.345 grain H2O = 3.918 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
66 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 75%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant Reloder-17 *T 102.8 60.0 3.89 3055 99.8 59000 11003 1.011 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 107.8 58.4 3.78 3033 98.9 59000 10886 1.010 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 107.6 61.8 4.01 3001 97.0 59000 10884 1.020 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C 107.3 59.0 3.83 2996 98.5 59000 10640 1.025 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 106.8 59.4 3.85 2995 98.6 59000 10658 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 101.7 59.8 3.88 2995 96.1 59000 10836 1.023 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 101.7 59.8 3.88 2995 96.1 59000 10836 1.023 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C 104.1 59.2 3.83 2993 98.4 59000 10740 1.031 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C 97.1 58.9 3.82 2991 98.7 59000 10553 1.023 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR 104.4 58.1 3.76 2986 98.0 59000 10545 1.023 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game 96.9 57.4 3.72 2975 99.3 59000 10226 1.026 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 110.0 65.8 4.26 2971 96.7 51403 11853 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 96.4 53.7 3.48 2971 99.4 59000 10255 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 110.0 59.2 3.84 2962 99.6 58561 9930 1.025 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C 97.7 54.4 3.52 2959 99.4 59000 10129 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C 97.2 54.1 3.50 2958 99.1 59000 10175 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 92.0 55.8 3.62 2958 99.9 59000 10025 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 89.5 53.6 3.47 2957 100.0 59000 9712 1.031 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 99.4 55.9 3.62 2956 99.8 59000 10034 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 106.0 60.9 3.95 2953 93.5 59000 10536 1.020 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 97.0 50.5 3.27 2948 100.0 59000 9222 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 93.7 52.1 3.38 2945 99.6 59000 9911 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 99.2 54.3 3.52 2944 99.3 59000 9816 1.021 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 98.5 56.0 3.63 2942 98.1 59000 10181 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar 92.2 54.8 3.55 2942 99.3 59000 9944 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 94.0 52.3 3.39 2941 99.4 59000 9932 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 110.0 60.9 3.94 2940 93.0 57355 10635 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 99.3 54.0 3.50 2932 100.0 59000 9438 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle 94.2 54.0 3.50 2932 100.0 59000 9439 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 92.1 54.0 3.50 2932 100.0 59000 9439 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 94.2 54.0 3.50 2932 100.0 59000 9439 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 106.2 58.4 3.79 2932 96.2 59000 10251 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350 106.2 58.4 3.79 2932 96.2 59000 10251 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C 104.7 62.7 4.06 2925 99.7 59000 9641 1.022 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 106.8 59.1 3.83 2923 95.3 59000 10088 1.027 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 *T 108.8 59.2 3.84 2923 95.1 59000 10095 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C 110.0 63.9 4.14 2920 93.4 51012 11391 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 109.8 64.4 4.17 2920 93.3 59000 10207 1.022 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 *C 90.4 50.6 3.28 2919 99.9 59000 9509 1.034 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 110.0 61.2 3.97 2919 92.9 55323 10657 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062 98.2 53.1 3.44 2919 99.9 59000 9553 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Precision 98.2 53.1 3.44 2919 99.9 59000 9553 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET *T 99.6 53.6 3.47 2917 98.9 59000 9742 1.029 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 99.3 53.6 3.47 2917 98.9 59000 9742 1.029 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 93.5 50.9 3.30 2914 100.0 59000 9076 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle 104.7 57.0 3.69 2914 97.4 59000 9966 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 104.7 57.0 3.69 2914 97.4 59000 9966 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 100.4 52.7 3.42 2912 99.1 59000 9599 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 85.3 51.8 3.35 2912 100.0 59000 9185 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR 92.4 51.4 3.33 2910 99.9 59000 9410 1.034 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 *C 94.5 51.7 3.35 2910 100.0 59000 9174 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC *C 91.9 55.1 3.57 2909 97.6 59000 9863 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 *C 96.8 54.4 3.53 2909 100.0 59000 9300 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 *C 95.1 51.8 3.35 2908 99.9 59000 9494 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 84.9 48.8 3.16 2905 100.0 59000 8921 1.032 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 90.3 48.8 3.16 2905 100.0 59000 8921 1.032 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T 101.7 55.9 3.62 2904 95.8 59000 9914 1.029 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 110.0 58.6 3.80 2904 97.9 54178 10257 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 *C 106.7 56.0 3.63 2903 100.0 59000 9329 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 99.9 56.4 3.65 2900 95.2 59000 9943 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200 91.9 51.9 3.36 2899 98.3 59000 9600 1.032 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp *C *T 92.2 49.6 3.22 2899 100.0 59000 8528 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 88.0 52.7 3.41 2896 100.0 59000 9206 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5 88.3 52.7 3.41 2896 100.0 59000 9206 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator *C 89.6 53.2 3.45 2892 99.3 59000 9441 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 87.7 52.8 3.42 2890 99.7 59000 9276 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 *C 101.3 54.2 3.51 2887 99.9 59000 9134 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4 86.8 51.8 3.35 2886 100.0 59000 9069 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World AR Plus 86.8 51.8 3.35 2886 100.0 59000 9069 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 *C 103.1 52.0 3.37 2885 100.0 59000 8624 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron *C*T 100.6 53.6 3.47 2879 95.9 59000 9603 1.034 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 110.0 62.9 4.07 2879 89.1 52736 10785 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210 86.0 49.4 3.20 2878 100.0 59000 9008 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060 94.2 51.0 3.30 2873 99.4 59000 9171 1.034 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Tactical Rifle 86.4 51.2 3.32 2872 99.7 59000 9040 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 90.2 51.1 3.31 2872 100.0 59000 8681 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 91.4 50.1 3.24 2869 100.0 59000 8950 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 84.1 49.8 3.23 2869 100.0 59000 8930 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 93.5 51.4 3.33 2862 99.6 59000 9034 1.034 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x *C 87.8 46.1 2.99 2858 100.0 59000 8388 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 90.4 48.1 3.12 2848 100.0 59000 8314 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 99.7 57.9 3.75 2846 94.9 59000 9336 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 110.0 61.9 4.01 2846 89.1 54144 10101 1.061 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 110.0 61.9 4.01 2843 88.5 51644 10544 1.078 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C 110.0 62.5 4.05 2842 87.6 48909 10917 1.106
Hodgdon CFE BLK *C 83.6 49.3 3.20 2842 99.9 59000 8751 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 *C 84.2 45.8 2.97 2834 100.0 59000 8176 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680 76.6 44.4 2.88 2829 100.0 59000 8157 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 110.0 61.9 4.01 2828 90.5 48056 10749 1.116
Vihtavuori N133 *C 96.2 49.0 3.17 2825 100.0 59000 8051 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 84.8 44.3 2.87 2824 100.0 59000 8095 1.029 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 87.4 43.6 2.83 2817 100.0 59000 7826 1.032 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Buffalo Rifle 75.2 39.1 2.54 2812 100.0 59000 7983 1.030 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D060 75.2 39.1 2.54 2812 100.0 59000 7983 1.030 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 *C 90.6 47.1 3.05 2810 100.0 59000 7940 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-7 82.6 44.5 2.88 2806 100.0 59000 7888 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 65.0 4.22 2803 84.8 47721 10720 1.122
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 110.0 59.5 3.86 2798 89.5 52758 9726 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207 82.9 43.1 2.79 2797 100.0 59000 7739 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 110.0 66.6 4.32 2793 90.6 49417 10322 1.102
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 110.0 59.9 3.88 2787 97.4 44464 10403 1.154
Hodgdon H4227 79.4 40.4 2.62 2759 100.0 59000 7338 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227 79.1 40.3 2.61 2754 100.0 59000 7313 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 110.0 61.2 3.97 2752 93.9 46426 9895 1.158
Vihtavuori N120 *C 85.2 43.3 2.81 2747 100.0 59000 7238 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N125 *C 80.6 41.7 2.70 2746 100.0 59000 7248 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 110.0 60.5 3.92 2737 88.4 43793 10370 1.166
Hodgdon H4831 *T 110.0 59.5 3.85 2714 86.4 46901 9592 1.133
Lovex S053 80.1 39.9 2.59 2711 100.0 59000 6996 1.054 ! Near Maximum!
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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3031 and 150 grain bullet...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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Yay Seafire...there is no problem in the gun universe that can not be solved with a judicious dose of good ol' 3031.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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3031 and 150 grain bullet... Pretty hard to argue with that.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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I’m not pissed I listen to people that know what there talking about and He’s right but I had it lead sled and I actually got two 760 carbines and they both have fire balls when you shoot I’ve tried multiple different ammunition and they both seem to not shoot very good with factory loads I just thought there might be Someone that had have the same experience and found a load that shot pretty good I’m not expecting incredible accuracy but I can’t accept a 4 inch group at 50 yards using a lead sled. Try one of the youth loads, will for sure reduce the "fireball". That said 4 inch groups at 50 yards could easily be a loose scope mount or a bad scope. This said I have had guns that flat would not shoot from a lead sled and that is why I no longer own one.
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Thanks antelope sniper. It is interesting that most burn about 1-1.5% more while IMR-4350 and H-414 burns 2% more in the 22" barrel.
Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths.
"there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser"
"the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"
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3031 and 150 grain bullet... Pretty hard to argue with that. Well there is also 4198 or if ya want to take a walk on the wild side... 24 grains of Blue Dot, and a 150 grain RN or FN 30/30 bullet...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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Chase, Here's a link to a similar thread I started a few years ago. Bottom line, I put a soft towel over the front rest and held the fore end in my left hand. The load I use(d) is 55 grains of IMR 4350 with a 180 grain Hornady RN. YMMV. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-shoot-a-7600-off-the-bench#Post12082241
Last edited by River_Ridge; 12/02/20.
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The men who wrote the Second Amendment didn't just finish a hunting trip, they just finished liberating a nation.
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