|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,366
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,366 |
Well, it looks like you don’t have to worry about Trump taking your guns anymore. I’m sure sure Joe Buden will treat your better. Enjoy, amigo!
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 40,179
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 40,179 |
Well, it looks like you don’t have to worry about Trump taking your guns anymore. I’m sure sure Joe Buden will treat your better. Are you saying trump wanted due process? No wonder your crying.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
MOLON LABE
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,114
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,114 |
Adding semi auto firearms to "the list":
I don't think that can happen, if you are talking about the tax on full autos. Semi auto are protected by 2A, while full autos are not.
All handguns, including semi autos, are protected under Heller, and semi auto rifles are probably legally indistinguishable from semi auto handguns.
Last edited by denton; 11/25/20.
Be not weary in well doing.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 30,945
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 30,945 |
If SCOTUS were completely happy with the 1st Circuit ruling, they probably would not have accepted the case. We may be fortunate enough to get some strengthened 4th Amendment protections out of this. That in itself would strike down all red flag laws. Not necessarily. Could be a narrow ruling, or could be more broad. We will have to wait and see.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 40,179
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 40,179 |
Red flag laws completely circumvent any due process. Justification for seizure because of an impure thought, surely can't set any type of sound precedent.
Illegal search and seizure hands down.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
MOLON LABE
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 11,663
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 11,663 |
Well they are a terrorist organization don't ya know  ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/9HvHtSe.jpg) Why do you avoid the truth? An intelligent person - not you - would be embarrassed.
Last edited by 280shooter; 11/25/20.
Broncos are officially the worst team in the nation this year.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,719
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,719 |
After WW II Didn’t Europe require gun manufacturers to limit magazine size to 2 or 3 bullets? My Merkel Semi held and one in the chamber I think.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,114
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,114 |
Red flag laws completely circumvent any due process. Justification for seizure because of an impure thought, surely can't set any type of sound precedent.
Illegal search and seizure hands down. FWIW, I'm rooting for your position, but I'm not giving easy odds that it will happen that way.
Be not weary in well doing.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 5,240
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 5,240 |
Red flag laws completely circumvent any due process. Justification for seizure because of an impure thought, surely can't set any type of sound precedent.
Illegal search and seizure hands down. FWIW, I'm rooting for your position, but I'm not giving easy odds that it will happen that way. Too bad the NRA doesn't root for that position too.....
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 40,179
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 40,179 |
FWIW, I'm rooting for your position, but I'm not giving easy odds that it will happen that way. This is the first biggy heard in long while. With the addition of Amy darlin, i suspect the supreme's are going to shove right in the gun grabbers butts, with any luck and the river don't rise 
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
MOLON LABE
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,926
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,926 |
Adding semi auto firearms to "the list":
I don't think that can happen, if you are talking about the tax on full autos. Semi auto are protected by 2A, while full autos are not.
All handguns, including semi autos, are protected under Heller, and semi auto rifles are probably legally indistinguishable from semi auto handguns.
I hope you are correct but I think you are not. The Second Ammendment protects ownership of all firearms which in my opinion includes full auto firearms. Full auto firearms are taxed and require special permission from the government. They will simply include semi-auto firearms under the same law and the same requirements will apply to handguns as well as long guns, including shotguns. Never under estimate the tenacity of the left.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 3,733
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 3,733 |
45 100 has it about right. You peons don’t realize how much libs hate us. And Bear you have about worn out the Trump hatred. Can you state a case where he actually did what you piss and moan all the time about. How about a law he passed to that effect. Holding my breath waiting. Please hurry! Edk
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 40,179
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 40,179 |
Trump doesn’t write laws silly rabbit. Here’s some light reading to further your edumacation https://susanwbrooks.house.gov/medi...-flag-law-is-and-how-it-works-in-indiana
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
MOLON LABE
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,146
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,146 |
A $200 tax is not going to fly. There is presently a small tax on guns and ammo, and it is permitted because it is not a major burden on ownership. $200 is clearly intended to prohibit ownership, and is no more permissible than a poll tax. Pure political theater, signifying nothing. There is already a tax on certain firearms. Assault weapons will be added to the list. Really pretty simple. Hasbeen Keep calling them assault weapons. You'll get everybody else trying to do that, too.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,114
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,114 |
Per Heller, full auto firearms have not yet received 2A protection. I agree that they should, but SCOTUS so seldom calls me for guidance.
Be not weary in well doing.
|
|
|
|
|
78 members (10gaugemag, 300_savage, 6MMWASP, 44automag, 5sdad, 10 invisible),
2,130
guests, and
764
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,191,174
Posts18,465,401
Members73,925
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
