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I made some posts years ago about the 270-08 - (270 Redding) this new round seems awful ‘Hot’ pushing 270 Win speeds in a 16” - yes, I see the steel case head.

Anyone have the facts vs published stats?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.277_FURYYou

So the industry seems to be making some push in the 277 space like the 6.8 Western.

After many cartridge ‘newbies’ that flopped in the recent years, Anyone expect these new rounds to be very successful commercially?

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The Sig round is spec'ed for 80,000 PSI and was/is designed for the US Military. Sig said if they weren't chosen they would produce theirs for the civilian market



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Loaded w/ 150 gr. ABLR's...?

The 6.8 WESTERN will give one an honest 600 yd. hunting rifle (1500 ft-lbs).




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I don't see it being commercially successful mainly due to the case. How many manufacturers are going to completely retool to produce cases for a single cartridge? I'm guessing Sig would likely be the only manufacturer.

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It's said to be totally non-reloadable so many including myself would not be interested.

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That's what I have heard as well, partly because one of my editors was thinking about having me do an article on it. As I remember, he contacted Sig and that's what they said.


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Can most rifles handle 80 000 psi?

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The NAS3 pistol cases just need special dies and this looks similar. Unless the cases are compromised after firing I don't see why the Sig round would be unable to be reloaded. It will be a terrible flop, though. Too proprietary to have success. I don't see the 6.8 Western taking off either and that one doesn't make sense to me, being called "6.8" you don't have the ".270 brand name recognition", so why bother with 0.277" when it could have been 0.284"? And if it was 7mm then why bother with this at all?

But if it leads to more 6.8 bullets that's a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Elvis
Can most rifles handle 80 000 psi?


The cartridge and the rifle were designed from the ground up for 80,000 PSI



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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Elvis
Can most rifles handle 80 000 psi?


The cartridge and the rifle were designed from the ground up for 80,000 PSI

Which rifle? Reckon I've been living under a rock.
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Originally Posted by Garandimal
Loaded w/ 150 gr. ABLR's...?

The 6.8 WESTERN will give one an honest 600 yd. hunting rifle (1500 ft-lbs).




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With an almost identical case to the 270 WSM, except for having a little less powder capacity than the WSM. I remain to be convinced how much better it'll be than a 270 WSM with a 8" twist barrel.

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Originally Posted by TRexF16
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Loaded w/ 150 gr. ABLR's...?

The 6.8 WESTERN will give one an honest 600 yd. hunting rifle (1500 ft-lbs).




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With an almost identical case to the 270 WSM, except for having a little less powder capacity than the WSM. I remain to be convinced how much better it'll be than a 270 WSM with a 8" twist barrel.

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The Western’s shoulder and neck are designed for long, heavy, slippery bullets, 175gr, to be exact. So is the chamber spec and barrel twist. The .270 WSM is for about 150gr, tops.

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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Can most rifles handle 80 000 psi?


The cartridge and the rifle were designed from the ground up for 80,000 PSI


Thanks. So we won't be able to rebarrel a Ruger or Remington then. Have to buy the Styer rifle.

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Originally Posted by Elvis
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Can most rifles handle 80 000 psi?


The cartridge and the rifle were designed from the ground up for 80,000 PSI


Thanks. So we won't be able to rebarrel a Ruger or Remington then. Have to buy the Styer rifle.


The cartridge and rifle are from Sig



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Originally Posted by TRexF16
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Elvis
Can most rifles handle 80 000 psi?


The cartridge and the rifle were designed from the ground up for 80,000 PSI

Which rifle? Reckon I've been living under a rock.
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Good feedback. One might think the industry would take notes.........from those rounds that were a big success..........and big failures.

I agree with the comments above.

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What kind of barrel life do you get with 80,000 psi?


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Originally Posted by 65BR
Good feedback. One might think the industry would take notes.........from those rounds that were a big success..........and big failures.

I agree with the comments above.


This round was developed for the military to meet their requirements of 3000 FPS from a 16" barrel in a 308 sized case with 140 grain bullets. The only way was to i crease the pressure to 80 000.

Sig said from the get go they would produce the rifle and ammo for the civilian market even id not selected by the military. Their wete 3 companies that made the short go and Sig won the contract



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Originally Posted by szihn
It's said to be totally non-reloadable so many including myself would not be interested.


I saw a video of a Sig factory rep saying it would be reloadable.


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