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I posted a picture of this deer in the pump rifle thread, but I thought everyone would find this interesting. First some background. I've been shooting traditional archery at ETAR at Denton Hill State Park for many years. Some friends also usually spend some time in the summer riding their ATVs on the trail system through the Susquehannock State Forest. We as a group have sat around more than a few campfires and threatened to come down and hunt these big woods deer. We knew the deer density was probably low and that's probably why it's remained talk for so long. Well long story short I'm 52 and not getting any younger. I got tired of waiting for others to commit so this year I decided to just go on my own. I spent a long weekend hiking and scouting in September to try to find a couple likely areas, but that was really the limit of my knowledge of the area.

Early Saturday morning I made the 3 hour road trip down arriving around 6am. I had no idea what to expect as far as hunting pressure but figured the place was big enough I could get away from the crowds if they were there by just putting on some miles. Turns out there were way less people than I really expected. Saturday turned out to be a bust. No deer seen for 3.2 miles worth of still hunting and sitting, dawn to dark according to OnX. I stayed over night in the back of my truck in one of the parking areas rather than waste money on a motel. Sunday morning, with no real expectations, I decided to hunt the other area I had scouted in September.

The morning was so crisp and calm that I decided to still hunt the main ATV trail as walking anywhere else sounded like a heard of elephants coming through the woods. When I left the truck, mine was the only vehicle there, but by 0930 I had still hunted into 3 other guys all hunting the trails. I was dejected enough to decide to just hike up over the mountain to get as far away from the trails as I could. I only went about 1/2 mile off the road and found a beautiful little bowl and watched 4 does bust out of it heading for parts unknown. I decided this spot was just too perfect not to spend some time in. I sat there the rest of the day and about 4pm, this guy comes walking through without a care in the world.
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Here's where it gets real interesting though. after the initial excitement, I tried to set him up for some quick pictures. That's when I noticed he was a TAGGED deer!
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At first I thought oh crap, I shot an escaped farm deer, but the tags in his ear said Pennsylvania Game Commission, $100 reward and a phone number to call. Both ears were tagged with different numbers. This may be important later. (I intentionally blurred the numbers so none of you reprobates tries stealing my reward grin )
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So now it's 1630 and I've got a job in front of me. I decided before going in there was no way I was going to drag anything out of there so I brought along my Mystery Ranch Sawtooth and everything I needed to debone him in the woods. Going home to NY I'm not supposed to bring anything but meat home anyway due to CWD regs, so this made sense. Normally I would have just capped the skull there in the woods and taken just the antlers, but with those tags I wondered if PGC would want the jaw or brain for testing. Ultimately I got back to the truck and chickened out in regards to the skull. I cut off the antlers leaving both ears and tags attached and just the lower jaw. I bagged the rest of the skull/brain matter and discarded it in a dumpster On my way out of town.
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Side note: That pack out sucked! It was only 1.5 miles straight line to the truck, but closer to 2 actual distance. The first 400 yds was basically straight up, then once I hit the trail it was more gradual up, but still up most of the way. I weighed everything when I got back today and best I can tell the total for pack,meat,head, gun and binos was 97 pounds. That doesn't include my wool clothes I was wearing. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have made 2 trips. I'm way too old for that chit.

So about those tags. This morning I tried calling the number on the tags and it seems the number is no longer valid, so I started doing some digging around on the PGC's website. The only information about tagged deer I could find was this study done in 2014/15.

Deer Study

It talks about deer being cannon netted and tagged for a habitat study in in the Susquehannock State Forest. What's really interesting is how long ago this study was done. I am unable to find anything more current listed on the PGC's website. So if I'm reading this right, the deer I shot had to be tagged no later than March 2015! That means even if he was a fawn when tagged, that would make him at least 6.5 years old?! I find that almost impossible to believe, but without being able to talk to someone from PGC I've got nothing else to go on. Around home here, that rack would be a respectable 2 year old at best. I know there's not much for them to eat down there, but 6.5? I tried calling the regional office for PGC and couldn't get to a live person, so if anyone has a direct line to a biologist that might be able to help me out I'd love it if you could PM me.


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Interesting hunt for you! Be curious what you find out.


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Cool story - hope you get your hundred dollars. smile

Let us know what you find out. I'm curious too. Is he 6.5 years old?

Maybe post a pic of the lower jaw teeth and some folks on here smarter than me may have some insight on age.

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Cool discovery. I'd be curious to see how old he actually is.


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I would imagine deer die of old age in that part of the state. Not too many hunters put in the effort you did. Nice going!

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Very cool deer.
My bud shoots ETAR..travels from IN.
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Congrats. Great hunt even if you don't get the $100

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Awesome stuff, keep us updated on the progress with the discovery process...
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Congratulations on the fine deer and the reward! While a bit of a tough pack out.....at least you were prepared! memtb


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It's a different world up there, 6.5 yr. old deer here are very common, not unheard of to see 8.5 yr.old here. I have killed Does that were over 10 yrs old. Rio7

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Great story! I hope you do find out the age. Please share if you do. Like you said, antler size makes it look like a 2.5 yr-old buck, but maybe the body-size was that of a mature deer.

Anyway, good job!

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Lonny I don't have any real experience with old deer. We don't let them get much beyond 3 1/2 in my neck of the woods. 4 1/2 is a real survivor here. That said, this deer didn't give me the impression of being real old. I finally did get through to their message line at PGC. they said if no one calls within 10 days to call back so we'll see.
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That's a cool story. We come up from Virginia to shoot ETAR at Denton Hill. I hope they have it in 2021.

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Awesome story BBassi. Thank you for sharing.



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Used to see one with a radio collar near Gettysburg. Always joked about whacking it and putting the collar on semi heading South.

I dragged one out on a roll-up sled about half that far a few weeks ago. Thought I was gonna die on the hills.


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Congratulations....you EARNED it bud.

Very Nice buck and tremendous story. Good luck on the 'tag'.

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Wow that is a very cool story. I'll also be very interested to see what the PGC says about your buck. I'd guess they'll respond pretty quick to you inquiry.

I also used to shoot the ETAR but it was many moons ago. We probably started in 1992 or '93 I bet, good times!

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Very interesting story. The age of the teeth will tell.


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Brent, did you get ahold of PGC yet. If not I can't probably get you a Biologist contact info.


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