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Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15483929 12/04/20
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The internet.

Electronics as a whole, but with the introduction of the internet that pushed it over the edge[Linked Image from cf.ydcdn.net]

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Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15483955 12/04/20
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Allowing slaves into the US..


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The US in the last 40 years:

Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex

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Rugged individualism for the individual.
Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15483997 12/04/20
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1991, collapse of the USSR. Globalisation linked up the worlds elite and without each other to fight for the first time in human history they turned on the next best thing, their own middle class. it didnt happen right away. There was still 20 years of easy money to be made. We set up business in the old iron curtain countries, made bank, easy mortgages, good stock returns, we even sold manufacture off and invented a bunch of worthless fluff jobs to keep people employed. Then in the late 2000's the money started to run out, Russia started taking its territories back, china started outmaniouvering us and we realised our culture of bloated, drug addicted, whining, suburbanite dog shampooers and tree pyschologists could no longer be supported.

Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15484007 12/04/20
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We started crossing the Rubicon the day George Herbert Walker Bush the nth took the oath. Klinton bolted on an Evinrude. Then, GW just put on one of those V-12 Merlin race engines and crashed on the wrong shore.


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Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: duck911] #15484629 12/04/20
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Originally Posted by duck911
1,000 years from now, we (the USA, as we know it) will likely be in history books, being studied by some other mega-power country, probably learning from our fatal mistakes.

Despite our current downfalls, this is still the greatest country in the world today. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else...

But it will not last forever. No civilization ever has. And we won't, either.




read sir jhon glubb...fate of empires....breakdown of great powers and how they all have common traits before their downfall....happens to every country.....bob

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Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: fburgtx] #15484710 12/04/20
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Originally Posted by fburgtx
LBJ’s “Great Society” programs

Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965

Opening trade with China (creating a monster)

9/11- Seemed to make it “ok” to limit lots of freedom’s in the name of safety


Those are the 4 biggies..

We have Bush & Cheney to thank for Homeland Security......a bloated, unneeded government agency.

Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15484714 12/04/20
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When the owning property was removed as a requirement to be able to vote.

Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15484741 12/04/20
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lincoln
roosevelt
johnson
carter
obongo

in that order


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Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15484748 12/04/20
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1913.

I'm glad some people realize it.

Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: fburgtx] #15486112 12/04/20
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Originally Posted by fburgtx
LBJ’s “Great Society” programs

Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965

Opening trade with China (creating a monster)

9/11- Seemed to make it “ok” to limit lots of freedom’s in the name of safety


Those are the 4 biggies..




And this

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Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: Ghostinthemachine] #15486343 12/04/20
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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
1913.

I'm glad some people realize it.



I understand the sentiment, but an argument can be made that April 8, 1865 was a watershed date...or the day Lincoln was elected.

Or you can go all the way back to The Whiskey Rebellion.

I guess it just depends on whether you think it's government action or social degeneracy allowing the decay to continue. I choose the latter.


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Give a communist a helicopter ride, he flies for an afternoon. Throw a communist out of a helicopter and he flies for the rest of his life.....



Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15486375 12/04/20
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1960 damn hippy communist.

Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15486376 12/04/20
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I never cease to be amazed that there are people today who think only landowners should be able to vote.

There are some also, who even long for the days of monarchy.....

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Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15486384 12/04/20
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I'm changing my vote... from 1913 to whenever it was when the first jew was allowed to set foot here. At that point, our doom was sealed.

Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: Etoh] #15486387 12/04/20
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Originally Posted by Etoh
As Ceasar said--- I don't know why in hell Jeep cant make a Rubicon in two doors with a pickup bed.


Well, as usual, the first response is usually the best.

LMAO!


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15486414 12/04/20
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Only landowners should vote. If you do not own a piece of this nation, you get no say in how it is run, because you have no real skin in the game. What is so hard about owning a 1/4 acre of America, that any working person could not afford it? For damn sure, if you are receiving any kind of, welfare, disability, subsidies, tax breaks, or other treasure from the public pot, you do not vote.

Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: jackmountain] #15486479 12/04/20
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The actual answer is when Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden.

Despite those that believe in "evolution", everything in human history since then has been a downward spiral - "devolution" if you will.

The USA is just one more in a long series of failing (devolving) empires... the ink wasn't even dry on the Constitution when the process had begun.


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: Brad] #15486518 12/04/20
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Originally Posted by Brad
The actual answer is when Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden.

Despite those that believe in "evolution", everything in human history since then has been a downward spiral - "devolution" if you will.

The USA is just one more in a long series of failing (devolving) empires... the ink wasn't even dry on the Constitution when the process had begun.

According to that logic, it is impossible that the USA ever existed. I think you need to do better than that kind of reasoning. The way we perceive the world and define it in the West is over 2500 years old. Things are cyclical, and your religious beliefs should remain figurative.


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Re: When did we cross the rubicon? [Re: Crow hunter] #15487225 12/04/20
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This may sound simple, but when people switched from shopping at Sears to shopping at Walmart. The names of the department store and discount store can be changed. Politics be dammed, pocketbook economics is reality.


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