Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire I have a “God’s Purpose” question.

I wonder what kind of Christian M45 is on the
theistic scale , young earth creationist or one of
many variants of compromised faith heretic ..

Got something to ask me? I'm game.

Ok.... so you don’t believe in “God.”

And your reasoning.... perhaps justification.....is what has been seen in a pediatrics ward.

There is war, famine, illness, death.... unfair loss....heartache and woe in this world .... to be sure.

Why?




Do you see anything good? Love, overcoming, victory, joy, friendship.... anything like that?

Why?

Within the context of modern definitions, and current usage, you are wrong.

Agnosticism is actually a sub-set of atheisms, where an atheist is defined as those who do not believe any theistic claims have met their burden of proof. In atheist circles it's often referred to as "soft-atheism". Those who take the position that the counter proposition IS true, i.e. there is no god(s), and hold that proposition has met it's burden of proof are called anti-theist, or hold the position of "hard-atheism".

Of course there are variants of this, where some hold that certain definitions of god(s) do not, or cannot exist, but do not extend that to all possible god claims.

What kind of Christian are you?

What do you believe, and why do you believe it?

How about you respond to what he actually wrote?

I did.....

Only Dawkins holds belief in such a described scale. Please tell me who besides him has said such.

You either don't believe in gods (Atheist), you think there might be gods but don't know (Agnostic) or you fully believe there is a god (Religious).

And I think it confirmed exactly what flintlocke wrote.

Regarding slumlords OP:How different might one’s outlook on life be if one had absolute confidence that God was with em’...? How differently might one respond to difficulties, temptations, and ‘all’ tribulations if one knew with certainty that God was with them in all of it and was going to walk with them through it...?
The first century followers of Jesus had a seemingly irrational faith in the face of random acts of violence, tragedy, persecution...I say irrational because when bad things happened they turned to God for comfort even though they were confident that God could’ve kept those bad things from happening in the first place. Like us, they wondered “why...?”, but they kept believing, and they kept praying...things didn’t always add up, things didn’t always make sense, but...they maintained hope even when they didn’t have explanations.
Peter, to whom many bad things had happened, assured them that their hope was not in vain because their hope was anchored to an event, the resurrection of Jesus. And as an eyewitness of both Jesus’ crucifixion and His resurrection, Peter’s words carried weight.
They carried weight then, and they carry weight today. Their death-defying confidence in God, fueled by this teaching of Peter, is why while there is no more Roman Empire, there are a great number of Christian churches in many major and minor cities and towns and villages all over the world today. And to the degree that our faith is anchored to what their faith was anchored to, I believe that we too can live with hope that even though we don’t always have good explanations, there is still reason to believe.

Check the distinctions between strong and week atheism, and agnosticism....which is also a form of atheism.

You failed to recognize henotheism and polytheism.

Add as many definitions as you please. Set that scale to slide through any level of belief (singular or multiple) or disbelief you may deem necessary.

It all comes down to evidence or absence of evidence. Do you have any reason/evidence to believe in the existence of Brahman? Allah?

The only thing that can equal a spirited discussion on politics is a topic on religion. I have always wondered where/what the correlation is.

Tyrone,

Are you so oblivious that you can't even read my signature block:

Nobody spends somebody else�s money as carefully as he spends his own.
The U.S Government has a unique capacity for getting things upside down.
Milton Friedman.

Do you even know who Milton Friedman is?
Do you have any idea what he says about the family unit and divorce? (obviously not.)

Are you against basic Muslim Education in school?
Would you be against laws citing Koranic justifications?

As for the Magna Carta, of course it used Catholic language, the original version was written by a Catholic Archbishop, and later annulled by a Catholic Pope, Innocent III, which lead to another war. In the 1600 the Magna Carta was used to argue against that all so Christine doctrine of the Devine Right of Kings.

Bottom line is, I'm about the furthest think you can find from a Marxist, demonstrating your characterization of Atheist as Marxist is not correct. With all due respect, it's simple 4th grade set theory where you draw venn diagrams.

I hate to use the term, but yes to be a "True Marxist", you must be an atheist in the sense that you cannot believe in a supernatural god. But that does not make all atheist Marxist. , and every time you claim is does, you do a disservice to yourself by diminishing your integrity.

If you have issue with Marxist, that fair. So do I. Take it up with the Marxist.

If you have an issue with my non-acceptance of your theistic claims. That's fine we can discuss the factual reasons why, in my opinion, your theistic clams fail to meet their burden of proof.

What you may not do is claim that my non-belief in your God makes me a Marxist. It's dishonest, and offensive, so if you are a man of integrity, you need to stop.

There are independent but both try and control lives

They are totally materialistic. And usually deconstructionist too.

Wow! Where'd that come from?

You may not be a political Marxists, but you certainly sound like a social one. Nihilism is one of Marxism's hallmarks.
But hey, if you are right, wear it proudly! Instead, you come off like you are ashamed.

Atheism has nothing to do with politics, character or the ability to appreciate life. Atheists can feel wonder and be in awe of the scale and scope of the Universe without imagining a creator.