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Re: Michigan State Troopers Guarding Capitol should be fired!! [Re: UPhiker] #15525984 12/14/20
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Once the election was certified, the GOP Electors have no legal standing. Just like Democrat Electors have no standing in Texas or any other state that voted for Trump.

The Electoral College is comprised of 538 people, known as electors, chosen nationwide to meet in their home states and cast one vote per person for president and vice president. Michigan has 16 electors to reflect the number of senators and representatives it has in the U.S. Congress. Presidential candidates on the Michigan ballot submit a list of 16 qualified electors to the Secretary of State's Office. The 16 electors whose candidate wins Michigan's popular vote will participate in the Electoral College at the State Capitol in December.

Electors pledge to support the candidate they represent and may not vote otherwise. Michigan voters can be assured that all 16 Michigan electoral votes automatically go to the presidential candidate winning the popular vote.

Most states distribute their Electoral College votes in the same "winner takes all" fashion as Michigan. However two states, Maine and Nebraska, apportion their electoral votes by congressional district.

To be elected president, a candidate must receive at least 270 of the 538 electoral votes cast nationwide. If no candidate receives 270 votes, the final decision is made by the U.S. House of Representatives.

Who selects the electors? Choosing each State's electors is a two-part process. First, the political parties in each State choose slates of potential electors sometime before the general election. Second, during the general election, the voters in each State select their State's electors by casting their ballots.

MICHIGAN ELECTION LAW (EXCERPT)
Act 116 of 1954

MICHIGAN ELECTION LAW (EXCERPT)Act 116 of 1954CHAPTER IVELECTORS OF PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT168.41 Presidential electors; eligibility.Sec. 41. No person shall be eligible to be an elector of president and vice-president who shall not havebeen a citizen of the United States for at least 10 years and a resident and registered elector of thecongressional district for an elector representing a congressional district, or of the state, for an electorrepresenting the state at large for at least 1 year prior to the election. No senator or representative, or personholding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector, as provided insection 1 of article 2 of the United States constitution.History: 1954, Act 116, Eff. June 1, 1955.Popular name: Election Code168.42 Presidential electors; selection at state political party conventions, certification.Sec. 42. In the year in which presidential electors are to be elected under section 43, each political party inthis state shall choose at its fall state convention a number of candidates for electors of president andvice-president of the United States equal to the number of senators and representatives in congress that thisstate is entitled to elect. The chairperson and the secretary of the state central committee of each politicalparty shall, within 1 business day after the conclusion of the state convention, forward by registered orcertified mail a certificate containing the names of the candidates for electors to the secretary of state. Thecandidates for electors of president and vice-president who shall be considered elected are those whose nameshave been certified to the secretary of state by that political party receiving the greatest number of votes forthose offices at the next November election.History: 1954, Act 116, Eff. June 1, 1955;Am. 1955, Act 271, Imd. Eff. June 30, 1955;Am. 1956, Act 190, Imd. Eff. Apr. 26,1956;Am. 1999, Act 216, Imd. Eff. Dec. 28, 1999.Popular name: Election Code168.43 Presidential electors; election.Sec. 43. At the general November election held in the year 1956 and at the general November election heldevery fourth year thereafter, electors of president and vice-president of the United States shall be elected inthe manner herein provided: Provided, That if congress should hereafter fix a different day for such election,then the election for electors shall be held on such day as shall be named by congress as provided in section 1of article 2 of the United States constitution.History: 1954, Act 116, Eff. June 1, 1955;Am. 1955, Act 271, Imd. Eff. June 30, 1955.Popular name: Election Code168.44 Repealed. 1955, Act 271, Imd. Eff. June 30;—1955, Act 283, Imd. Eff. July 19, 1955.Compiler's note: The repealed section prescribed a form of an official presidential ballot.Popular name: Election Code168.45 Cross or check mark as vote for presidential electors.Sec. 45. Marking a cross (X) or a check mark ( ) in the circle under the party name of a political party, atthe general November election in a presidential year, shall not be considered and taken as a direct vote for thecandidates of that political party for president and vice-president or either of them, but, as to the presidentialvote, as a vote for the entire list or set of presidential electors chosen by that political party and certified to thesecretary of state pursuant to this chapter.History: 1954, Act 116, Eff. June 1, 1955;Am. 1985, Act 160, Imd. Eff. Nov. 20, 1985.Popular name: Election Code168.46 Presidential electors; determination by board of state canvassers; certificate ofelection.Sec. 46. As soon as practicable after the state board of canvassers has, by the official canvass, ascertainedthe result of an election as to electors of president and vice-president of the United States, the governor shallcertify, under the seal of the state, to the United States secretary of state, the names and addresses of theelectors of this state chosen as electors of president and vice-president of the United States. The governorRendered Thursday, December 3, 2020Page 1Michigan Compiled Laws Complete Through PA 249 of 2020 Legislative Council, State of MichiganCourtesy of www.legislature.mi.gov
shall also transmit to each elector chosen as an elector for president and vice-president of the United States acertificate, in triplicate, under the seal of the state, of his or her election


168.47 Convening of presidential electors; time and place thereof; resignations; refusal or failure to vote; vacancies.

Sec. 47.
The electors of president and vice-president shall convene in the senate chamber at the capitol of the state at 2 p.m., eastern standard time, on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December following their election. At any time before receipt of the certificate of the governor or within 48 hours thereafter, an elector may resign by submitting his written and verified resignation to the governor. Failure to so resign signifies consent to serve and to cast his vote for the candidates for president and vice-president appearing on the Michigan ballot of the political party which nominated him. Refusal or failure to vote for the candidates for president and vice-president appearing on the Michigan ballot of the political party which nominated the elector constitutes a resignation from the office of elector, his vote shall not be recorded and the remaining electors shall forthwith fill the vacancy. The ballot used by the elector shall bear the name of the elector. If at the time of convening there is any vacancy caused by death, resignation, refusal or failure to vote, neglect to attend, or ineligibility of any person elected, or for any other cause, the qualified electors of president and vice-president shall proceed to fill such vacancy by ballot, by a plurality of votes. When all the electors appear and the vacancy shall be filled, they shall proceed to perform the duties of such electors, as required by the constitution and laws of the United States. If congress hereafter fixes a different day for such meeting, the electors shall meet and give their votes on the day designated by act of congress.

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Re: Michigan State Troopers Guarding Capitol should be fired!! [Re: Joel/AK] #15525999 12/14/20
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Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Gretch is a problem but not THE problem here. Her admin is terrible, our repub legislature is spineless. We need to replace everyone in Lansing. Then amputate the thumb area and give to canada.

I'd be happy with dividing the state at Gaylord and giving everything south of there to Ohio, Indiana and Illinois.


4 out of 5 Great Lakes prefer Michigan. smile
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Gretch is a problem but not THE problem here. Her admin is terrible, our repub legislature is spineless. We need to replace everyone in Lansing. Then amputate the thumb area and give to canada.

I'd be happy with dividing the state at Gaylord and giving everything south of there to Ohio, Indiana and Illinois.


Let me get out of the state before that plan happens.


If Obama is the answer, must have been a pretty stupid question.
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Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by bruinruin
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Gretch is a problem but not THE problem here. Her admin is terrible, our repub legislature is spineless. We need to replace everyone in Lansing. Then amputate the thumb area and give to canada.

I'd be happy with dividing the state at Gaylord and giving everything south of there to Ohio, Indiana and Illinois.


Let me get out of the state before that plan happens.

I want out too.


4 out of 5 Great Lakes prefer Michigan. smile
Re: Michigan State Troopers Guarding Capitol should be fired!! [Re: ready_on_the_right] #15526097 12/14/20
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Cops will obey ANY policy that come from someone higher up -------------so they can keep a paycheck. Their integrity vanishes 100% as soon as it's actually needed.

Cops are cops. You need not be much of a historian to see that is true and always has been.

Those few cops that object NEVER do anything but bitch about the policy, but in EVERY case they ignore their oath and DO NOTHING when they see open treason being committed right in front of their eyes.

I HONESTLY WISH that was not true, but it is.
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History has a lot to teach us on this subject.

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Keep backing the blue, clearly they are on the side of freedom.....

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Yeah, Now put on your mask (surrender flag) or ELSE!

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This stuff is really looking fun ....


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Originally Posted by bruinruin
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Gretch is a problem but not THE problem here. Her admin is terrible, our repub legislature is spineless. We need to replace everyone in Lansing. Then amputate the thumb area and give to canada.

I'd be happy with dividing the state at Gaylord and giving everything south of there to Ohio, Indiana and Illinois.

No Thank You!

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Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Gretch is a problem but not THE problem here. Her admin is terrible, our repub legislature is spineless. We need to replace everyone in Lansing. Then amputate the thumb area and give to canada.


Yes, she is the problem along with her 3 amigos, Sec State, AttGen & LtGuv......................they are all batschitt crazy & the Guv is the ringleader who sets the tone.

MI is a real fu^ckin' disaster area................it just surprises me that people are taking it so meekly with basically zero pushback as all on anything............all the phony mask BS, all the business & services closures & now the election fraud on a huge scale.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Gretch is a problem but not THE problem here. Her admin is terrible, our repub legislature is spineless. We need to replace everyone in Lansing. Then amputate the thumb area and give to canada.


Yes, she is the problem along with her 3 amigos, Sec State, AttGen & LtGuv......................they are all batschitt crazy & the Guv is the ringleader who sets the tone.

MI is a real fu^ckin' disaster area................it just surprises me that people are taking it so meekly with basically zero pushback as all on anything............all the phony mask BS, all the business & services closures & now the election fraud on a huge scale.

MM

Dude calm down it'll all work itself out for the better ... smile

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Gretch is a problem but not THE problem here. Her admin is terrible, our repub legislature is spineless. We need to replace everyone in Lansing. Then amputate the thumb area and give to canada.


Yes, she is the problem along with her 3 amigos, Sec State, AttGen & LtGuv......................they are all batschitt crazy & the Guv is the ringleader who sets the tone.

MI is a real fu^ckin' disaster area................it just surprises me that people are taking it so meekly with basically zero pushback as all on anything............all the phony mask BS, all the business & services closures & now the election fraud on a huge scale.

MM


Our spineless GOP legislature could do something but they won't act. Our speaker even says no grounds for impeachment proceedings. Fire em all.

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If Obama is the answer, must have been a pretty stupid question.
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Nah, ain't nothin' gonna happen anywhere.

An-ti-Fa rulz........................

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According to an article on Newsmax, the attempts to block the GOP electors was foiled. The GOP electors filed votes in all of the contested states including Michigan and will be submitting them.

This will not be reported by any mainstream media.
They think it is a last ditch effort.

Till Jan 6th, when the walls come crashing down.

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I disagree, they should not be fired....just obeying orders from "OBERSTURMBANNFUHRER WITMER" like good little Nazis, You need focus on Georgia...that state is a real bloody mess as at this point the senate races will be lost.

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Agreed on GA; as of right now, I'd say the voting will be even more fraudulant than it was last month.

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Fired, really, then what, fill their positions with more of the same.

They need to be made an example of, by We The People.

Find out where they live, start there.

If it weren’t for LEO, politicians would just be some people with bad ideas.


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I have 2 MSP troopers in my family. She has no support from the rank and file troopers. Its anyone trying to build a career that's her bootlickers in the State Police. That being said its a job. Not doing what your told gets you fired and you lose your pay and benefits. I'm sure all of you are willing to throw away your living for your principles at the drop of a hat haha

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Originally Posted by k20350
I have 2 MSP troopers in my family. She has no support from the rank and file troopers. Its anyone trying to build a career that's her bootlickers in the State Police. That being said its a job. Not doing what your told gets you fired and you lose your pay and benefits. I'm sure all of you are willing to throw away your living for your principles at the drop of a hat haha

Yup, that’s it right there, straight from the horses mouth.

Follow orders, any order, no matter what that order is. F*ck the oath, f*ck the Rule of Law, F*ck the Constitution and the rights of the American people, follow all orders legal, illegal, unconstitutional and criminal.

Paycheck comes first, America not so much.


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