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Originally Posted by gunzo
Anytime ya work on things you'll sooner or later you'll cuss an engineer.

I love the story or how I've heard it, about the Lear jet company. Anytime they hired a new engineer they put him//her on the assembly line for six months. When they got cut or had to a contortionist, or had major problems with assembly they made note of it & when they got to the drawing board they improved things & thought ahead with new designs.

It's been said that Lear jets are very easy to work on. Mechanic friendly.


Learjets are the biggest PITA. Great story, if true. I have maintained Lear 24, 25, 35, and 55 models- they are full of tiny, snap together [bleep] that breaks every time you touch it. Changing the battery is nearly impossible unless you are some scrawny little turd. Learjet=junk.


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Originally Posted by 3584ELK
Originally Posted by gunzo
Anytime ya work on things you'll sooner or later you'll cuss an engineer.

I love the story or how I've heard it, about the Lear jet company. Anytime they hired a new engineer they put him//her on the assembly line for six months. When they got cut or had to a contortionist, or had major problems with assembly they made note of it & when they got to the drawing board they improved things & thought ahead with new designs.

It's been said that Lear jets are very easy to work on. Mechanic friendly.


Learjets are the biggest PITA. Great story, if true. I have maintained Lear 24, 25, 35, and 55 models- they are full of tiny, snap together [bleep] that breaks every time you touch it. Changing the battery is nearly impossible unless you are some scrawny little turd. Learjet=junk.

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Also, said engineer should be made to replace every part of their designs before they can be sold. They need to know how bad their bright ideas are screwing their customers.


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I'm currently in the process of changing valve cover gaskets on a 4.0L SOHC in an Exploder.

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When my Wife and I were married she had a 1976 Pontiac Grand Prix that was in great shape. The first time that I changed the oil, I discovered that the oil filter was positioned horizontally and above the exhaust pipe, so I had to reach around a warm exhaust pipe to reach the filter and when I removed it warm oil dripped onto the warm exhaust pipe. Quite messy. My FIL installed after-market remote oil filters in the fender, so that they were easy to get to. Seemed like a great idea.

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Try less coffee.


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I will admit the "mud catcher" on my 16 F-150 is a bit of a pain but not horrible. The oil filter is strange being on top of the engine. But it is what it is.


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