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Was just browsing Stocky’s website, and noticed there are NO Bell and Carlson stocks on there, anymore. What happened??
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FWIW, I think Red Hawk Rifles dropped B&C stocks about a year or two ago, as well....
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Hmmmm.... Wonder what’s going on??? Is this due to some “quality issue”, I wonder, or just some spat between retailers and manufacturers?? Strange...
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Saw the same thing but B&C web site shows there stocks at Stockys pricing. Like there Tikka LH stocks.
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With so many good options out there, I can't imagine a scenario where B&C would be my first choice.
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With so many good options out there, I can't imagine a scenario where B&C would be my first choice. Well, how many of those “good options” are less than $300 (like the B&C)?? We can argue that an HS Precision, McMillan, etc, are better quality, but McMillan’s start at $625, and HS’s start at about $400. I was just wondering why Stocky’s no longer carried them....
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www.bellandcarlson.comI like the Weatherby style Medalist for 2nd tier short action Howa 1500s and the discontinued stock that they made for the Interarms Mini-Mauser. B&C's price is the same as Stocky's was charging, $285.
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Hmmmm.... Wonder what’s going on??? Is this due to some “quality issue”, I wonder, or just some spat between retailers and manufacturers?? Strange... Redhawk actually printed a statement as to why they dropped B&C. They said it was over B&C's poor handling of honoring warranties. B&C better wakeup if they care. They lost Redhawk, now it seems Stocky's, but that's not known as they may have decided to go dealer direct or something. Plus, for the time being they're not selling to Remington. Thin ice.
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Hmmmm.... Wonder what’s going on??? Is this due to some “quality issue”, I wonder, or just some spat between retailers and manufacturers?? Strange... Redhawk actually printed a statement as to why they dropped B&C. They said it was over B&C's poor handling of honoring warranties. B&C better wakeup if they care. They lost Redhawk, now it seems Stocky's, but that's not known as they may have decided to go dealer direct or something. Plus, for the time being they're not selling to Remington. Thin ice. Is Remington still actually building firearms? Given their uncertain future, if I was a vendor I'd only sell to them COD.
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The Remington firearms section has been sold or is pending if I understand correctly. And with the new owners likely hoping to begin production to create some income ASAP.
Now the tricky word; assuming, the newbies will want to produce a lot of the same models & ride on the Remington brand, if there's anything left of the name.
That's the Remington I now see, the future. The "New Remington"? "Remington 2.0"? It's been done many times in the past with other names.
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Hmmmm.... Wonder what’s going on??? Is this due to some “quality issue”, I wonder, or just some spat between retailers and manufacturers?? Strange... Redhawk actually printed a statement as to why they dropped B&C. They said it was over B&C's poor handling of honoring warranties. B&C better wakeup if they care. They lost Redhawk, now it seems Stocky's, but that's not known as they may have decided to go dealer direct or something. Plus, for the time being they're not selling to Remington. Thin ice. I send an email to B&C and received this reply: "You sure can buy stocks directly through us either via website or over the phone. If you ever need help finding a stock, we would be more than happy to help you. This includes warranty issues.".
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Glad to see they are still active. I have one & like the feel of it
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With so many good options out there, I can't imagine a scenario where B&C would be my first choice. Well, how many of those “good options” are less than $300 (like the B&C)?? We can argue that an HS Precision, McMillan, etc, are better quality, but McMillan’s start at $625, and HS’s start at about $400. Grayboe, for one....Their Outlander and Terrain, which are their more traditional hunting stocks, can be had for $300-325 if you catch a sale from them or Redhawk, but its only $359 normally. Their stocks are leaps and bounds beyond anything I have ever seen or felt from B&C.
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If I were a betting man the reason would be B&C made the decision to sell direct to the consumer. It frankly is what most companies are doing. Dealers don’t like it so they move on to other product lines. This is driven by folks expect things in stock and shipped quickly . B&C makes a quality product and I have never encounter a warranty problem.
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I’ve ordered the last 2 direct from B&C. They were in stock and shipped very quickly. I think both shipped on the same day or the following day. I’ve ordered probably half a dozen stocks from Stocky’s and have never had one show up as quick as these did.
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Just ordered B&C LH one for my Tikka $15 for shipping to Alaska via UPS normal shipping to Alaska via UPS is well over $50! I have one B&C LH on a LH T3X in 300 WSM nice stock.
Have several older B&C stocks and the new ones are a big improvement over the older ones I have.
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If I were a betting man the reason would be B&C made the decision to sell direct to the consumer. It frankly is what most companies are doing. Dealers don’t like it so they move on to other product lines. This is driven by folks expect things in stock and shipped quickly . B&C makes a quality product and I have never encounter a warranty problem. Interesting that nearly every other major stock manufacturer sells direct, yet dealers still carry their items.
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The last B&C I ordered, it was twenty five ish bucks cheaper to order from B&C than Stockys. They said what I ordered was out of stock when I placed the order and I had shipping confirmation in two business days.
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With so many good options out there, I can't imagine a scenario where B&C would be my first choice. Try being LH and look at options B&C always had a lot of LH options
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I've had great luck with B&C. I love McMillan, but twice the price and 10x the wait. With a lot of comp shooters switching to chassis, I wonder if McMillan will eventually feel the pinch.
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