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Anyone tried it with 150 grain bullets? I blundered upon an 8 lb keg at a good price and am looking for uses for it beyond my .260 load that I like it for. Ramshot has data, but wondering if it is too slow for best results.
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No personal experience with using it in 30-30, but I’d use it. Notice on the burn chart that Leverevolution is only a few steps faster than Big Game. I’m using up some IMR4320 for my 30-30 loads, and it’s not much faster burning. Big Game may not be as efficient as a faster burning, but I’d still use it for a 16” or 20” lever.
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Anyone tried it with 150 grain bullets? I blundered upon an 8 lb keg at a good price and am looking for uses for it beyond my .260 load that I like it for. Ramshot has data, but wondering if it is too slow for best results. I've loaded W760 compressed under 200gr cast bullets with CCI250's in 30-30, and it shoots very well at close to 2000fps. It isn't that Big Game is way too slow, but combined with 150 grain bullets, you may not be able to get enough in the case to get good results, I suspect. I couldn't say for sure. Give it a try, and let us know. I suspect it would do better with bullets at least 170 grains.
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You'll have the advantage of not having to weigh charges.
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Looks like it should work:
Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Hornady RN 3035
Useable Case Capaci: 36.582 grain H2O = 2.375 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder : Ramshot Big Game
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.389% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-13.9 86 31.00 1923 1232 25757 5326 79.1 1.417
-12.5 88 31.50 1956 1274 26887 5459 80.1 1.393
-11.1 89 32.00 1989 1318 28069 5591 81.1 1.368
-09.7 90 32.50 2022 1362 29313 5721 82.2 1.344
-08.3 92 33.00 2056 1408 30614 5850 83.1 1.321
-06.9 93 33.50 2090 1454 31979 5978 84.1 1.298
-05.6 95 34.00 2123 1502 33413 6103 85.1 1.275
-04.2 96 34.50 2158 1550 34918 6227 86.0 1.253
-02.8 97 35.00 2192 1600 36500 6348 86.9 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
-01.4 99 35.50 2226 1651 38162 6467 87.8 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 36.00 2261 1703 39912 6583 88.7 1.182 ! Near Maximum !
+01.4 102 36.50 2296 1755 41752 6696 89.6 1.158 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.8 103 37.00 2331 1809 43692 6806 90.4 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.2 104 37.50 2366 1864 45736 6912 91.2 1.112 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.6 106 38.00 2401 1920 47892 7014 91.9 1.090 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.9 107 38.50 2436 1977 50169 7113 92.7 1.068 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 36.00 2310 1777 42204 6712 91.2 1.152 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 36.00 2209 1626 37704 6425 85.9 1.215 ! Near Maximum !
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MichieD, like the stories of people dipping a .270 full of the old military surplus 4831 and seating a bullet! I know it's not ideal, but my .30-30 gets a lot of use as a farm truck/camping gun.......a few less fps won't hurt me for that purpose. I will give it a try this summer. Thanks all for the input.
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I'm sure it will go bang and likely work fine. It's not a jug of RL33
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