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Anyone have good pics of wound channels?
Mushroomed bullets?
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A thermal pig hunt is on my bucket list.
If I ever draw I’d love to chase an elk with one.
Nice buck!!! This right here is what worries me. A .223 has no business taking down a 600#+ elk. Ive seen them eat lead from large 30's (properly placed), like I eat Skittles. I agree. Yeah, you hear about elk being taken with them. But, you never hear how many they wound. Somehow that never comes up in the bragging. Have some respect for the animals and use enough gun to do it right the 1st time. So your claim is that using larger cartridges than a 223 amounts to having more respect of for the animal, that using a 223 is doing it wrong, and that no one using larger than a 223 wounds and loses elk? There's so much idiocy there that I'm not going to bother.
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Why would you even want to???
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A thermal pig hunt is on my bucket list.
If I ever draw I’d love to chase an elk with one.
Nice buck!!! This right here is what worries me. A .223 has no business taking down a 600#+ elk. Ive seen them eat lead from large 30's (properly placed), like I eat Skittles. Amen Brother. Personally I will not use a 22 on big game. My personal preference that is, but if I had to TTSX and deer/antelope only. YMMV.
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Some good discussion going on, I like it
Not long ago the 243 was considered marginal
I’m not talking running shots on moving elk at 600 yards
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No skittles were hurt in the writing of this
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Casey should stick with what he loves, as he has no clue about the 223's effectiveness on elk.
Have killed elk as close as 30 yards and as far as 475 yards with a 223, and it worked sublimely in all cases.
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Anyone using the 223 and Nosler 64gr Bonded on deer/antelope? Thinking about lining my daughters out of that combo this year. Tags willing
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Anyone using the 223 and Nosler 64gr Bonded on deer/antelope? Thinking about lining my daughters out of that combo this year. Tags willing
I tried that bullet and frankly could not get it to shoot to my satisfaction. Shot a couple deer with it and actually felt the damage was excessive-ruined a lot of meat. Others have reported better results though...
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For lack of anything better to do with my time on lockdown I read this whole thread earlier this morning. Lots of great info that lines up with my findings and experience with the 77TMK. If you have a gun with the twist to shoot them they are THE game bullet for the small case 22 centerfires IMO. I started using them 2 years ago on Form’s recommendation on here and he wasn’t lying. I haven’t shot anything bigger than a coyote at more than 200 yards or so. But at 200 and in we’ve killed a mountain of pigs and deer. They are devastating. The advice in the linked thread to stay off the eating parts is good advice but they have no problem breaking shoulders on 200lb pigs if you’re inclined. I haven’t shot anything over about 250lb with them but on game up to that size I’d say exits are the norm IME. Wife drove one through a buck on a diagonal through the shoulder back to the flank and I did recover it but that was probably 28-30” of penetration.
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Anyone using the 223 and Nosler 64gr Bonded on deer/antelope? Thinking about lining my daughters out of that combo this year. Tags willing
I tried that bullet and frankly could not get it to shoot to my satisfaction. Shot a couple deer with it and actually felt the damage was excessive-ruined a lot of meat. Others have reported better results though... Hmm. Initial accuracy testing has been fine for me but admittedly it’s not my normal protocol. Basically shot a fist size group at 200 yards aiming at a 2” circle with a 4x scope and circle dot reticle... More testing is needed but that rudimentary accuracy should suffice figuring a 200 yard maximum shot Penetration was adequate? Guess I’d rather have more damage than less given the cartridge but if we hit a shoulder I want it to still do the trick
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I happen to have some 62gr TB Bear Claws as well, though not nearly as many
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Anyone using the 223 and Nosler 64gr Bonded on deer/antelope? Thinking about lining my daughters out of that combo this year. Tags willing
My kids have used that bullet out of a 22-250. Antelope, WT, and Mule deer. I don’t think we’ve caught a bullet yet. The rifle has a 22” barrel. We call it the death ray. I tried the 60 partition and it was hard to catch one on the target due to the 14 twist. The 63 Sierra shot very well for us too but we haven’t used it on game. I know I’ve posted this before, but hey I’m bragging on my kid. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/galleries/12375857/mule-deer
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@Ralphie
If I ever nickname a rifle can I use death ray? Sounds kinda storm trooperish.
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The 63 Sierra shot very well for us too but we haven’t used it on game.
You would not be disappointed , its an excellent game bullet.
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Anyone using the 223 and Nosler 64gr Bonded on deer/antelope? Thinking about lining my daughters out of that combo this year. Tags willing
My kids have used that bullet out of a 22-250. Antelope, WT, and Mule deer. I don’t think we’ve caught a bullet yet. The rifle has a 22” barrel. We call it the death ray. I tried the 60 partition and it was hard to catch one on the target due to the 14 twist. The 63 Sierra shot very well for us too but we haven’t used it on game. I know I’ve posted this before, but hey I’m bragging on my kid. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/galleries/12375857/mule-deerNice buck!
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Was it a factory load or component bullet Bristecd? I’ve never used any Trophy Bondeds but like the sound of the 55 for a pig bullet. Hand loaded.
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Bristecd- what powder do you use? how much? thanks. ron
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