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What’s your accuracy requirements for SHTF Rifle Ammo?

Minute of commie.

Defensive ops...3moa. Surgical offense(shoot and scoot, 1 shot and back to the day job) sub moa.

Can't MOA be made right by pray and spray?

Minute Of Azzhole. One shot, one or more dead.

Spray and pray is a profoundly poor tactic.

Accuracy by volume.

I value reliability over accuracy.

Volume fire and the less than precision weapons used to accomplish that is just a facet of small unit tactics, known for generations as fire and maneuver. Say, fire team A lays down heavy fire to keep the enemy's heads down while fire team B moves to an advantageous position. The whole concept requires manpower and coordination. A purely military exercise. SHTF by it's very nature seldom will involve more than two men, so it's tactics must evolve to a more sniper oriented mission, to remove the enemy command and control, followed by escape and evasion with pre planned routes with redundancies. Accurate fire, rapid hit and run, define SHTF. Blood and casualties demoralize the enemy, the sound of gunfire does not.

It’s the Indian, not the arrow, vast majority of rifles produce necessary accuracy, it’s can you shoot under duress & return accurate fire 🤷🏻‍♂️

My gauge was always minute of cigarette pack. I’d expect that to expand significantly under duress, but then if you’re capable of going from minute of cig pack to paper plate, you’re still a force to be reckoned with.


But it’s good to have a few canned rifles capable of 1” groups or better.

Situational awareness & tactics liable to be far more important.

These days my first line of defense is a 30" full choked 12 gauge loaded with federal premium copper plated 00.

Depends a lot on which rifle.

If my AK goes BANG it passes.

The ARs are held to a higher standard, the ammo makes a big difference. At least about 1.5 MOA. One is .5 MOA with its preferred load.

Shotgun, well.....

M.O.P.P....... Minute of paper plate, for 7.62x39 stuff. 12 ga. "00" Buck ? I don't know but I may play with some this spring as I have almost zero experience with it.

Clearly, Divine Intervention

Bust open a head. I am a zombie killer.

Every rifle I own is an moa rifle except my Garand which is 1 1/2 moa good enough. Shotguns are all patterned for their particular load and have been proven on coyotes.

I can shoot my .308 bolt gun offhand and hold minute of melon at 100 yards .

What ever a the Tactical mini 14 will do

Same guarantee lake city gives the U.S Army with their 62gr green tip 2-3 moa..

Word of advice for all you wanna be revolutionaries aim for the belt line..,