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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: oklahunter] #15548509 12/20/20
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For the bore size, the 338 win mag is moderate in case capacity With a 29 inch barrel, I got 2900 fps from 250 gr.
The .284 win with 28" gives 3100 with 154 Hor SP, and 2850-2900 with the 175. Now some argue that they would not carry such a long, heavy barrel, but the 338 with Brown Kevlar stock was 9 lb. and the NULA 284 weighs about 7.25 lb. When you ask the guy what his cousin Bubba carries in the woods, he replies that Bubba shoots punkin balls from his 30" full choke shotgun. So much for "needing" short barrels. Meanwhile the bull elk runs through the woods with a 5-6 foot antler spread! As above, I still wear hearing protection.


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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: oklahunter] #15548895 12/20/20
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Well, I've been shooting something or another since I was 11 years old. Hearing protection was a cotton ball stuffed in each ear. They muffled the noise some but damage was still being dome. We just didn't know any better. I didn't even see my first pair of ear muffs until 1973. I'm 82 years old now and have a 95% hearing loss in my right ear and if I'm lucky still have 65% remaining in my left ear. Whether at the range or on a hunt, my electronic muffs are on my head. I can carry on a conversation or listen to the instructions from my guide on a hunt. Took a bit of getting used to but at least it's what I have to do to keep what little hearing I have left. Another good point is they help keep my ears warm when it's 4* above zero.
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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: TheKid] #15571641 12/26/20
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Originally Posted by TheKid
A 722 chambered for 222 immediately came to mind when I read the title. Pretty sure they were only available with 24 or 26 inch barrels.



Both, 26 inch was standard for many years. The twenty four inch became standard in later production.


A 722 .222 26 inch barrel combination is a quiet solution.

Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: oklahunter] #15571699 12/26/20
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I thought my 28" 257 Weatherby had reduced muzzle blast until I shot it from a pop up blind. The muzzle was out the window and the blast still destroyed the screen and my ears are ringing almost a week later. No fool like an old fool, the ear plugs were back in the truck.

I am with those that say a longer barrel will help but not enough to shoot without hearing protection. I also think a recessed 11 degree target crown deflects more noise away than a more flat muzzle crown. I think you would have to go to something like a 218 Bee, Hornet or 300 Whisper to reduce noise significantly, but still hearing protection would be needed.

Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: oklahunter] #15572086 12/26/20
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My 9.3x62 is a Ruger No.1S with 22 inch barrel. Due to not having a long magazine action etc. it is very short and muzzle blast is quite noticeable. Luckily I only have to shoot it once at game as everything hit with it just falls over.

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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: oklahunter] #15572337 12/26/20
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Anyone tried a linear compensator? I have one on a 6.5 CM and a few .17 cal and .22 cal rifles. Some say these reduce sound for the shooter about 3 db which is about a 50% reduction. I can't measure db that accurately but they seem to work and my groups are really good with them installed.

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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: UncleAlps] #15572395 12/26/20
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Originally Posted by UncleAlps
Anyone tried a linear compensator?

I took the factory noise maker off the AR right away, and installed a linear comp.....

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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: Mule Deer] #15573174 12/26/20
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Going from memory, but I seem to recall my 6.5 x 55 Swede had a 29 inch barrel. Had it chopped to 24 though.

A Rem 600 in 6mm with an 18 1/2 inch barrel is a serious boomer.

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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: oklahunter] #15573345 12/27/20
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Originally Posted by oklahunter
Oh, not so much looking for a solution. More interested as to who may have a favored rifle along those lines for hunting. Don’t really want a can for this. I wear hearing protection at range but not always while hunting. Interested in those that may have gone the route of longer barrels to reduce muzzle blast while still having a rifle good to beyond 150 yards for deer or hogs.


I have several long barreled rifles. A 30" 338 Laura a 29" 270 Win and a 29" 300 win.
Noise is a product of exit pressure the longer the barrel the lower the exit pressure and noise



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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: Steve Redgwell] #15573558 12/27/20
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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Are you looking to shoot them or hunt with them? I can propose a number of solutions.

Many Mosin Nagants (7.62x54r) have longer barrels, The cartridge is easy on the shoulder and there is no muzzle blast.

I have a number of single shots with longer barrels. They are range rifles, but I suppose they could go hunting as well. I have a 303 British (a 30-303 actually) that is 26 inches long on an Encore action. A few P14s with 26 inch barrels as well.

You can have a longer barrel screwed onto an action of your choice as well. That's more expensive, but an option. 26 inches should do it.

You shoot different Mosin Nagants than I do. And I've had 6 of them


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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: aalf] #15573579 12/27/20
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Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by UncleAlps
Anyone tried a linear compensator?

I took the factory noise maker off the AR right away, and installed a linear comp.....

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Sharp!


Safe queens should be taken out and shot!
Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: oklahunter] #15574079 12/27/20
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at my range or another range i always wear ear protection with all guns but when i hunt i never wear hearing protection when deer hunting i use a 257 Weatherby mag. with a 27 inch barrel most of the time,predator hunting like running dogs on coyotes i use a 220 swift 26 inch barrel or my 243 AR-10 24 inch barrel and never wear ear protection. while hunting I don`t see how hearing protection would be a benefit i gotta hear the dogs bark or deer hunting i listen for them.


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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: oklahunter] #15574150 12/27/20
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I generally wear electronic ear plugs at the range unless someone near me is shooting something really loud and I'll put ear muffs on too. I've been using the electronic plugs while hunting the past few years and mostly like them. Sometimes wind noise is an issue. Squirrels on dry leaves sound like a herd of elephants!


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Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: 1minute] #15574499 12/27/20
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Originally Posted by 1minute
Going from memory, but I seem to recall my 6.6 x 55 Swede had a 29 inch barrel. Had it chopped to 24 though.

A Rem 600 in 6mm with an 18 1/2 inch barrel is a serious boomer.

I had a mohawk in 308. It would definitely ring your bell.

Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: liliysdad] #15574606 12/27/20
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Originally Posted by liliysdad
Suppressor takes care off all that nonsense...

The nonsense part starts when you start jumping thru Federal hoops to own a suppressor. Funny how that noise reduction act to legalize suppressors was shot to hell by a convenient mass shooting by some other guy framed by the government run by the left. Mb


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Not in the People's Republik of Illinois.

Re: Mild cartridges-long barrels [Re: oklahunter] #15576363 12/27/20
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Just came into a rifle chambered in 22-250 that has a 26 in.barrel.

Have not shot it yet but i wonder what it sounds like compared to my 22 in.rifle.

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