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If sound suppressors were unregulated and available fort purchase in the same manner as any non serialized accessory.... Would 5.56mm remain king of the black rifle calibers?


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I would say yes. Only because of ammo availability.


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Originally Posted by ringworm
If sound suppressors were unregulated and available fort purchase in the same manner as any non serialized accessory.... Would 5.56mm remain king of the black rifle calibers?

What do you think would pass it up?

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If suppressors were "over the counter".... I'd avoid I-75



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Originally Posted by night_owl
If suppressors were "over the counter".... I'd avoid I-75



WTF does that mean?


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Originally Posted by Kota
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If suppressors were "over the counter".... I'd avoid I-75



WTF does that mean?

Sounds like another idiot on the fire. The reason I"m not around this dump much anymore.


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I don’t see how it would have an effect? Shooting suppressed makes most calibers more “comfortable” the only times it makes me smile is subsonic, so .300BO in my case. Rimfire more so. It’s hard to shoot a .22lr unsuppressed now.



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in all effect i figured Trump would make suppressors otc come his 2nd term.................but that plan was busted as bad as i hate it.
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.223/5.56 is such a versatile cartridge I don’t see how suppressors would have any impact. Any cartridge is going to be loud with bullets coming out of a 16” barrel. The only way around it would be subsonics and with that you loose most of the versatility and limit your range.

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I've never really understood the popularity of 300BO subsonic. Maybe I'm too old but back in the day, we used to call a 210gr bullet at 1000 heavy loaded 45ACP.

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Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
.223/5.56 is such a versatile cartridge I don’t see how suppressors would have any impact. Any cartridge is going to be loud with bullets coming out of a 16” barrel. The only way around it would be subsonics and with that you loose most of the versatility and limit your range.

Guess you don't understand how cans work. The faster the round is the louder. Shorter the barrel too I suppose BUT you don't have to limit to subs to be quiet.

We run supersonic in Creedmoor all the time and folks on the lease are constantly texting, did you shoot, where were you etc....

If they were over the counter I can't think of a gun we own that wouldn't have one for it basically. I'm sure I could come up with a few but they just are a plus all the way around.

I was in a stand taking a friend to shoot a buck. I'd forgotten how flipping loud a 270 can be... ears hurt for a few hours after that....


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Originally Posted by UPhiker
I've never really understood the popularity of 300BO subsonic. Maybe I'm too old but back in the day, we used to call a 210gr bullet at 1000 heavy loaded 45ACP.


30 rounds on tap in my AR pistol vs 7 in the 1911.

I wasn't ever in a gunfight wishing I had less ammo, so I do understand.

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I've never really understood the popularity of 300BO subsonic. Maybe I'm too old but back in the day, we used to call a 210gr bullet at 1000 heavy loaded 45ACP.


30 rounds on tap in my AR pistol vs 7 in the 1911.

I wasn't ever in a gunfight wishing I had less ammo, so I do understand.

If I'm in a gunfight, my AR ain't going to be a subsonic 300, it's going to be 5.56.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
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I've never really understood the popularity of 300BO subsonic. Maybe I'm too old but back in the day, we used to call a 210gr bullet at 1000 heavy loaded 45ACP.


30 rounds on tap in my AR pistol vs 7 in the 1911.

I wasn't ever in a gunfight wishing I had less ammo, so I do understand.

If I'm in a gunfight, my AR ain't going to be a subsonic 300, it's going to be 5.56.


I've shot an M16 inside. I don't plan on doing the 5.56 thing again indoors.

And for home defense, my 300BO AR>pistol or shotgun.

So, I've got a 300BO pistol next to me in the closet.

Now, for "on the roof" I've got a 6920 and a bolt 22 with a can......

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
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I've never really understood the popularity of 300BO subsonic. Maybe I'm too old but back in the day, we used to call a 210gr bullet at 1000 heavy loaded 45ACP.


30 rounds on tap in my AR pistol vs 7 in the 1911.

I wasn't ever in a gunfight wishing I had less ammo, so I do understand.

If I'm in a gunfight, my AR ain't going to be a subsonic 300, it's going to be 5.56.

How many animals have you shot subsonic with the blackout? I"ve a lot. And a lot with the 223. Whichever is handier is good enough and better than a pistol or a shotgun

Though inside if I had to have a shotgun a semi 12 with mini rounds could give one a decent feeling. No mags at least.

And that said for the part of not shooting the AR in the house. Lets just say for most it will never even come close to having to happen. But if it does its extremely unlikely you will ever HAVE to do it more than once. IE I"ll still grab whats handy. Though the inside house AR usually is suppressed most of the year.


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Originally Posted by rost495
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.223/5.56 is such a versatile cartridge I don’t see how suppressors would have any impact. Any cartridge is going to be loud with bullets coming out of a 16” barrel. The only way around it would be subsonics and with that you loose most of the versatility and limit your range.

Guess you don't understand how cans work. The faster the round is the louder. Shorter the barrel too I suppose BUT you don't have to limit to subs to be quiet.

We run supersonic in Creedmoor all the time and folks on the lease are constantly texting, did you shoot, where were you etc....

If they were over the counter I can't think of a gun we own that wouldn't have one for it basically. I'm sure I could come up with a few but they just are a plus all the way around.

I was in a stand taking a friend to shoot a buck. I'd forgotten how flipping loud a 270 can be... ears hurt for a few hours after that....

I miss wrote. I meant to write that I don’t see how over the counter cans would have any impact on making the 5.56 less popular

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OTC cans would definitely make 300blk more popular. If you owned one you would understand why. Super 223 vs 300 is noticeably different with 300blk being way more pleasant to shoot. Subsonic 300blk is a thing of beauty for plinking. Not exactly great for hunting

Would it displace 223. Probably not

Not that any of this conversation even matters since Democrat’s have a super majority

22lr. So nice that once you go suppressed it’s hard to shoot unsuppressed with it like jack said. Hollywood quiet

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Originally Posted by rost495


And that said for the part of not shooting the AR in the house. Lets just say for most it will never even come close to having to happen. But if it does its extremely unlikely you will ever HAVE to do it more than once. IE I"ll still grab whats handy. Though the inside house AR usually is suppressed most of the year.


Like I said, I've shot an M16 indoors. It sucked and I have tinnitus, but it beat the alternate.

So, for me, what's "handy" is an AR pistol with a can.

Or a Glock with a can.


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Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by rost495


And that said for the part of not shooting the AR in the house. Lets just say for most it will never even come close to having to happen. But if it does its extremely unlikely you will ever HAVE to do it more than once. IE I"ll still grab whats handy. Though the inside house AR usually is suppressed most of the year.


Like I said, I've shot an M16 indoors. It sucked and I have tinnitus, but it beat the alternate.

So, for me, what's "handy" is an AR pistol with a can.

Or a Glock with a can.


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