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No new loads for the 338-06 with new powders, one of many that did not. Just the same loads from decades ago.

I've ordered the book from Midway and it's taking a while to get here, (Covid and Xmas slow down), so I haven't reviewed. I'm a Reloading manual nerd. Love the write-ups in the Nosler, Sierra, Hornady, etc Manuals. But, I have to ask myself, "why do I re-load"? It's because mainly I shoot oddball calibers, i.e. 240 Wby, 7mm WSM, 338-06, 257 Roberts, (not really oddball, but +p data sucks in most manuals). Plus I live and hunt in California where finding Lead Free data wanting in most powder manuals Not only are these cartridges not updated, but they're being dropped out. I just bought the 2021 Hodgdon magazine, guess what? The calibers I mentioned above have again been omitted, dropped or not updated. And the powder manuals, where is the data on Berry's type bullets data? We shoot these by the hundreds in pistols, or monumental bullets? I ask myself again, "why do I reload"? One good reason is because I shoot oddball calibers and they should be included in the manuals.




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To my eye the key word in the quote is "all."
I buy all the manuals I can data and procedures both. I weight Gun Gack and others from the same source more than most. Even when the powders have the same names I don't pay much attention to the data from Phil Sharpe or even from Richard Lee's much more recent big book.

My biggest gripe with the included at no extra charge internet data is the illusion of completeness. Despite having their latest data book in the next room I checked on line to choose powder for a less common cartridge. I bought a powder I wouldn't have if I had chosen from the full assortment in the printed book.

I've been told the various labs do respond to interest expressed by their customers but seldom and only for the largest numbers?

Anybody out there today after the manner of H.P. White to do pressure testing and load development for hire? I'd like the opportunity to join a Patreon group suggesting which questions should be answered next.

Clark,

Before Hodgdon bought Western Powders, the lab in Miles City did a LOT of piezo pressure-testing for various companies, including at least one major bullet company. Don't know if that will continue with the Hodgdon purchase.

Don't know why some powder/bullet/etc.companies don't list ALL their data on-line, but suspect it will continue to increase.

Just ordered my #9 today. Whether or not it's worth it or doesn't really matter now. At least Ill have hard copy of data.

My newest manual is several years old, the newest powder I have bought is at least a decade old, most have been around for many decades. My most currently used powders, are H-1000, RL-15 and Varget. Oldest is 4831. I believe that there have been "few", that does not mean any, of any advancements in cartridges since the 50s. Many love new stuff, I love tried, tested and work ready. Just my 02.

Nosler #8 is currently online minus the cartridge author write-ups. I wonder how long it'll take to get #9 online.

Amen!

I like having paper manuals. Have the new Hornady and the new Nosler inbound as I type. Easy to tote to the loading bench. Easy to open several at one time to compare across companies. Some of my older manuals get gifted to newbies getting started in reloading. A few I keep to have reference for older cartridges that may not make it into the newer manuals.

Finally... What happens when all of the current online reloading content is banned from the internet because it "promotes violence" ?

Good post.

Was using alot of H4350 and RL15. I did warm up to Ramshot Big Game & Hunter a few yrs ago and just use their pdf data download.

Most of my manuals are old, newest about 10yrs? And I have alot of older powders that need loading or sprinkling.

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Some of the new powders are BETTER than the old powders. Wider variety of powders give a handloader more options to find better/accurate, mild to wild loads.

We're not talking about a redo of every powder out there, we're referring to new powders--some that have been on the market for 4-5 years and are VERY viable, and in some cases BETTER powders.


I know one thing, this Panic Pandemic has done more to introduce handloaders to the new Enduron powders than a million dollars in advertising by Hodgdon could have accomplished......

lol......I have 61 hardbound and spiral bound manuals.......then there are the paperback and brochure type manuals.....

There can sometimes be little tidbits of info found in manuals that are not online. Besides, when starting with a new powder, or bullet, or cartridge, it's nice to open 3-4 manuals and do some contrast and compare.

Just call me a Fudd.........

I buy most of the new manuals as they are a good read. And sometimes new cartridges are added. For instance the latest Hornady manual has the 6.5x57 and 7x64 cartridges. Nosler has the .257 Ackley. I have a big pile of manuals by my chair and flick through them when the crappy ads are on the tv.

I agree with everything said about the #9 deleting classic cartridges and not including some of the new powders, however I appreciate finding everything I need with their online manual.

That said, yesterday I picked up the Lyman 50th and immediately noticed H4350 conspicuously absent. It lists AA4350 and IMR4350, but no H, a powder I luckily have a lot of. Guess I’ll be extrapolating starting loads from the other 4350s. Anyone have a secret formula for figuring H4350 loads from AA4350 and IMR4350? Looks like all three are within .5 to 1.5 grains of each other for a given bullet/cartridge combo.

Thanks

Lou