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Re: Are premium bullets needed for elk? [Re: Mackay_Sagebrush] #15601360 01/02/21
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Now you’ve done it! grin


Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Is a 155 Lapua Scenar from a puny little .308 considered a "premium"?

The elk keep tipping over.

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Re: Are premium bullets needed for elk? [Re: Judman] #15601380 01/02/21
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Daughter is a fan of the 155 Scenar. I consider it a stunt shooters bullet. I only shoot premiums, like my favorite 6.5 140 Berger VLD.

Re: Are premium bullets needed for elk? [Re: MtnHtr] #15601421 01/02/21
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Cool!!!! Good on you! Nice bull!

I'm close to drawing a 61 tag. Having this raging debate with myself between the 2nd, 3rd or 4th season...........


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Re: Are premium bullets needed for elk? [Re: Rock Chuck] #15601446 01/02/21
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
That also applies to a lot of guys who take 400+ yard shots.


Well yeah, but two elk over 400 yds out of 46 elk ain't bad. Some days a guy's stealth ain't as strong as other days...........

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Another reason I still generally shoot Partitions is when I can have them delivered to my door at half the street price, it makes practicing all summer long more affordable, especially with a college age son who I also happily support his hunting habit............

Having said that, my new 308 is going to be started out with 150g TTSX's for it's elk load. I shall see how this combo works.


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Re: Are premium bullets needed for elk? [Re: Judman] #15602048 01/02/21
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Fuqk it, just for conversation and entertainment I say "yes", they're needed for elk.

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Boned or monolithic ?

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Fuqk it, just for conversation and entertainment I say "yes", they're needed for elk.

GO!


I’ve been waiting for you brother Ted!!! Haha

You’ve killed lotsa elk, what’s your baby??

What did you run on afognak?


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Hey Bama, say, ocotillo....
A elk couldn’t kill itself with a 308... Dana Merrit Washington logger that’s killed more elk than you, with a 338...
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Originally Posted by SLM
Boned or monolithic ?


I hate monos....


Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
Hey Bama, say, ocotillo....
A elk couldn’t kill itself with a 308... Dana Merrit Washington logger that’s killed more elk than you, with a 338...
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Originally Posted by Judman
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Fuqk it, just for conversation and entertainment I say "yes", they're needed for elk.

GO!


I’ve been waiting for you brother Ted!!! Haha

You’ve killed lotsa elk, what’s your baby??

What did you run on afognak?


That Afognak bull died via .308" 200 grain old style Speer grand slam. My absolutely favorite bullet of all time. Pretty much an A frame from what I understand. My stash is getting thin thoughfrown.

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Originally Posted by SLM
Boned or monolithic ?


Everything I see gets boned, if possible.
Monos? Meh......



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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by T_Inman
Fuqk it, just for conversation and entertainment I say "yes", they're needed for elk.

GO!


I’ve been waiting for you brother Ted!!! Haha

You’ve killed lotsa elk, what’s your baby??

What did you run on afognak?


That Afognak bull died via .308" 200 grain old style grand slam. My absolutely favorite bullet of all time. Pretty much an A frame from what I understand. My stash is getting thin thoughfrown.


Magnum?🤣


Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
Hey Bama, say, ocotillo....
A elk couldn’t kill itself with a 308... Dana Merrit Washington logger that’s killed more elk than you, with a 338...
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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by SLM
Boned or monolithic ?


Everything I see gets boned, if possible.
Monos? Meh......


Haha you fuuckin slut!!! 😂


Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
Hey Bama, say, ocotillo....
A elk couldn’t kill itself with a 308... Dana Merrit Washington logger that’s killed more elk than you, with a 338...
Re: Are premium bullets needed for elk? [Re: Judman] #15602183 01/02/21
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Originally Posted by Judman
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Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by T_Inman
Fuqk it, just for conversation and entertainment I say "yes", they're needed for elk.

GO!


I’ve been waiting for you brother Ted!!! Haha

You’ve killed lotsa elk, what’s your baby??

What did you run on afognak?


That Afognak bull died via .308" 200 grain old style grand slam. My absolutely favorite bullet of all time. Pretty much an A frame from what I understand. My stash is getting thin thoughfrown.


Magnum?🤣


Good 'ol .30 Super.

I have about 50 of them left and saved them for my Yukon mountain griz/mountain caribou hunt that got rolled to next year due to COVIDfrown.

I want to cry.....

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Re: Are premium bullets needed for elk? [Re: T_Inman] #15602401 01/02/21
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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by SLM
Boned or monolithic ?


Everything I see gets boned, if possible.
Monos? Meh......


Screw you guys monos work fine. I’ve killed a few trees in the uintas with grand slams. Flying ash trays, BC of a Buick. 😉

Really though, doesn’t matter just hit the damn things in the kill spot and they die.

I like shooting my stash of 30 supers in my 300 weatherby, improves the hell out of them. Grin

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Don’t make it awkward

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Awkward situations are all I am good at making.

Especially if brewskis are involved.

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Awkward situations are all I am good at making.

Especially if brewskis are involved.

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Here here!

Re: Are premium bullets needed for elk? [Re: Judman] #15602711 01/03/21
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Terminal ballistic research on the internet has a kiwi that must shoot a bazillion ungulates a week weighing over 300 kilograms.

He goes on and on about this subject.

There was a pretty cool thread on the campfire years ago about point blank shots into a bovine leg bone knuckle joint.

The author used a 30/06

Seemed the 200 grain Speer was very disappointing, but the 130 grain Barnes did very well considering.

I think the advice here has been good, bottom line:

Monolithics need velocity to preform. I think 1800 fps?

Cup and cores need sectional density....( mass) for penetration about .250?

Premium bonded ,A frame types need a little of both.

Frangebile bullets may begin to fall short due to the size of elk compared to smaller animals.

My favorite way to hunt elk in in fresh snow, tracking them. I can spend a lot of time disengaged from regular life trying to piece together what them buggers have been up to. So I usually use a Lever action. I got a small cow at 30 yards with a 336 marlin ER 356 cal 220 grain Speer hot cor this year.....damn near could eat to the hole. I think ( as in I know) using a .308, 300 sav, or a 30/06 with lighter bullets would have caused much more tissue damage.


But it's all good 😊........no fight here!


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Nothing like 100 answers from a group of people that only 10% have actually killed one elk, let alone a dozen or more.


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