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Have you looked at Hammer all copper bullets?

You sir, are a complete dick....but I suspect your wife and others have already told you that.

no i have not yet ,have you tried them ? i will check them out right now ! i did order 200 of 128 gr. Hammer bullets expensive but sure look nice also. thank you much,Pete53

tarquin.lighten up.from 0 to a 100 that quick.

my 257 bee is going to start being built in about a week.about twist rates i went with a 1-8.was literally driving myself nuts between 1-7 or 1-7.5 and the 8.want to shoot and try 100 grainers up to the new 131 grainers.

tarquin.my apologies.i only looked at page 10.went back and read entire post.the cart before the horse is what i thought.

i have not shot these 128 gr. Hammer bullets yet but these bullets sure look impressive.right now i am busy getting ready for our winter shoots with a Ruger 6.5 Creedmoor precision red rifle for now.

No worries.

i can`t seem to post pictures of my new 257 Creedmoor Whidden dies and these new Hammer bullets , both are very impressive. someone send me the procedure to post pictures please. Pete53

Pete..nice load up date from the Ultimate Reloader, YouTube..might be of interest to you.

i sent that site a message about the 25 Creedmoor /257 Creedmoor thank you,Pete53

ok i set up the custom Whidden dies i had made for my 257 Creedmoor with my my once fired brass, i resized once fired brass from this rifle with the bushing die ,bushing i used was .283 because this Lapua brass has not been neck turned. the Whidden seating die holds bullets better while seating them and which should help keep bullets more concentric like the 131 gr. Black Jack bullets, also the 128 gr. Hammer bullets are longer than these Black Jack bullets too. my 1st 7 shells loaded are with the Black Jack 131 gr. bullets. i should explain the seating bullet die i used before it was a regular 6.5 Creedmoor Redding seating die as what was told to use in the video i watched,i felt the .25 caliber bullet was loose in the .264 seating die a little . today i plan on starting shooting the 257 Creedmoor its nice and still outside and should be around 30 degrees , my 1st 5 shot group will be 131 gr, Black Jack bullets at 100 yards with Reloader 17 powder my records showed this powder so far has worked well. will try 2 - 5 shot groups with these Black Jack bullets 1st, then 2- 5 shot groups 128 gr. Hammer bullets with every thing used the same besides the bullet.

I’m a 25 cal fan and my wife shoots a 250AI. So with that said I understand hunting with 25 calibers and a few months ago plenty of decent hunting bullets were available. I’m just curious what you’re trying to do here that couldn’t be done much easier by dropping down to .243 or stepping it up to .264?

rifle looney`s are always doing reloading projects before that cartridge ever becomes manufactured by ammo companies. i was 7 years ahead of ammo factories with a 7mm-08 ,the one cartridge that never has been developed by ammo factories and should be is 6mm -284 or even a 25 -284. i own 243`s ,264`s and even a 256 Newton all fun stuff. but the .257 or 25 caliber bullet is way over looked and very accurate, and a great hunting bullet too, i have always been a fan of the 25 caliber bullet. yes i may own 2 - 6.5 Creedmoor target rifles both are very accurate but i still prefer a 25 caliber cause i can . tomorrow or tonight i will post what i have done while shooting my 257 Creedmoor rifle today off my cement bench with target rests at 100 yards / 5 shot groups. what i am trying to do is consistent 5 shot accuracy under a 1/2 inch at 100 yards ,not just 1 good group to take pictures and show off to your friends . i have a few of these rifles now including a 7mm-08 but i like new toys, i have my own legal approved 100 yard rifle range with a heated shooting house 200 feet from my home out in the country so it just easy for me too build what i want for a cartridge and 10 miles from my house the machinist who builds national benchrest rifles that win lives.wildcat cartridges are just neat to own and use and the Creedmoor brass case is an excellent one and easy to find and buy too, which makes us Looneys very happy too.

yesterday i reloaded and shot 4 - 5 shot groups at 100 yards all were measured. i do believe these groups are better because i had the correct size dies" Custom Whidden dies " , before i was using my 6.5 Creedmoor dies with a .282 bushing in resizing bushing die and just a 6.5 seating die, i just felt these dies.were to loose for .257 caliber . with my new custom dies i used a .283 bushing in resizing die, with twice fired Lapua cases,Fed.205 primers, Reloader 17 in all groups > 1st 5 shot group with 131 gr. Black Jack bullets was 1/2 inch ,4 are in a 1/4 inch hole. , 2nd group with 131 gr.Black Jack bullets was 11/16 inch 4 are are a 1/4 inch hole. 3rd group was with 128 gr. Hammer bullets and i had to use .280 bushing in bushing resizer die to keep bullets tight in neck the group was poor 1 1/2 inch 5 shot group.
now this is the interesting part i had 7 shells that i had reloaded beforethat i had figured out how tight i needed necks to hold the hammer bullet firm started with .283 ended with .280 bushing in resizing die , all 7 of the different bushing size setup Hammer bullets in cartridge would turn but you could not push or pull them out so i decided to just shoot all 7 even if they all were a little different. those 7 loose bullets shot in a 3/4 group in a 1 inch square bulleye , so i decided too resize with the .283 bushing reload and shoot a group of 5 cartridges with these 128 gr. Hammer bullets ,seated them out a little more, dropped down 2 grs.of RL. 17 powder , i knew all 5 were loose and you could turn them but they would not pull or push in by hand these Hammer bullets have ring groves like Barnes bullets maybe that`s why they should have more neck pressure for hunting but this was for accuracy, so i shot these 5 loose Hammer bullet/cartridges and shot a 3/8 inch hole maybe a little less. so now i am wondering should i try a .284 bushing and loosen up the neck some for the 131 gr. Black Jack bullets ? i will also try the Hammer bullets more too , i will also say 131 gr. Black Jack bullets are now more consistent in group sizes with these custom Whidden dies, the method i seen on a video for using 6.5 Creedmoor dies is not the answer for reloading 257 Creedmoor ammo for accuracy you need 257 Creedmoor dies for a better cartridge to shoot.

I do hope some firearm company and some ammo factory decide to manufacture this cartridge the 257 Creedmoor in a unique rifle with some good ammo ,many of us enjoy using the 25 caliber .

I highly doubt you’ll get your wish. They already have cartridges on both sides of your wildcat that’s extremely popular with way more manufacturer support for bullets brass dies ammunition and firearms.

I would expect to see a 22 creedmoor at some point after things get back to normal’ish.

vacrt2002 ,thanks for showing that post again about Peterson brass making and selling 25 Creedmoor brass and now out of stock too ! so it looks like the jury is still out on a 257 Creedmoor ? i still think there is a piece a pie out there for new .257 caliber more than another new .224 caliber ? maybe these manufacturers are looking for something new and different with a unique name ? better bullets for a .257 are now being made , Peterson is making 25 Creedmoor brass, Whidden makes the dies and you can by 25 Creedmoor reamers very easy too. i bet some rifle manufacture chambers the 25 Creedmoor rifle next I expect.

Hey Pete...see the new 25 cal bullet from Berger??