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Posted this on Winchester Collectors also but thought there would be possibly an answer here. Can anybody tell me why this 1894 is worth over $7000?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/888141622


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I’d say that someone really wants a cherry pre-64 Winchester. The bidders have set the value, not the seller, and as you probably already know, there is no figuring people.

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I'm 94 ignorant. Does pre-64 mean anything on that model or was it just the model 70 that changed?


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That gun is a mess.


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Seller's name is Travis.

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Originally Posted by 280shooter
I'm 94 ignorant. Does pre-64 mean anything on that model or was it just the model 70 that changed?




That's a good question. I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the influences that perverted the Model 70 did some of the same to the 94s, and other models as well.

We have some Winchester experts in the house, but I think they mostly dwell in the Winchester Collectors forum. Who could blame them?


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Originally Posted by shootem
Posted this on Winchester Collectors also but thought there would be possibly an answer here. Can anybody tell me why this 1894 is worth over $7000?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/888141622

There's always a big premium on pre-64 Winchester rifles. Then add that this one's in particularly nice shape. I can see how collectors might pay that much.

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What's the bore like?


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Originally Posted by 280shooter
I'm 94 ignorant. Does pre-64 mean anything on that model or was it just the model 70 that changed?

Of course. All the Winchesters were cheapened after 1963, not just the 70.

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One bidder has bid against himself 20 times, raisin the price.

The other bidder is "Joey Butafuco".

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Originally Posted by Poconojack

That gun is a mess.



Please elaborate for us street urchins. wink


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Originally Posted by Fubarski
One bidder has bid against himself 20 times, raisin the price.

The other bidder is "Joey Butafuco".

On ebay, bidding against yourself doesn't change the price. If your last bid was $100.00, and then you bid again for $120.00, the current bid remains at $100.00. I assume it's the same with gunbroker.

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WOW!!
I just gave my great-nephew my father's pre-64 Model 94, in 32 Special for a graduation gift... It was in the same condition as the referenced rifle.

"Ah...say Caleb...I feel badly about giving you that old rifle. I know you'd really rather have a nice AR-15 with a shiny new red dot scope on it???" "I got it right here! What do you say we swap right now and your uncle can get shed of this guilt I been carrying 'round."


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I just gave my great-nephew my father's pre-64 Model 94, in 32 Special for a graduation gift... It was in the same condition as the referenced rifle.

"Ah...say Caleb...I feel badly about giving you that old rifle. I know you'd really rather have a nice AR-15 with a shiny new red dot scope on it???" "I got it right here! What do you say we swap right now and your uncle can get shed of this guilt I been carrying 'round."

I've got a very nice pre-war Model 94 in .32 Special, as well, and mine is in nearly as nice a condition as the one in that auction, only having a very little bit of bluing wear on the usual places (98-99% bluing). Love that gun.

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Originally Posted by 280shooter
I'm 94 ignorant. Does pre-64 mean anything on that model or was it just the model 70 that changed?


Oh, it means something. Beginning in '64 Winchester used many stamped parts rather than machined parts. The '64 to the early '80s 94s were very cheaply made. I referred to them as beer can '94s as so many of the parts looked as if they were stamped from the same grade of metal used to make a beer can. The metal finish and wood sucked. The actions of those guns were sloppy loose and would rattle. When the US Repeating Arms Co took over Winchester the '94s were upgraded and were much better made. I picked-up a WinTuff 94 in '91 that is very nice but still not up to pre-64 quality. I have a very nice condition pre-'64 94 made in 1960 in 32 Win Spl, though it's not as nice as the one on Gunbroker. That one is sweet! If someone wants a pre-64 94 in like new condition, there are not many out there. All that said, I wouldn't pay $7K for one.

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Originally Posted by 280shooter
I'm 94 ignorant. Does pre-64 mean anything on that model or was it just the model 70 that changed?

Of course. All the Winchesters were cheapened after 1963, not just the 70.


But, but.....they did not come in kool calibers like .307, .356 Winchesters or 7-30 Waters.

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the liberal coat of ren wax is worth at least 2 grand


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I suppose congratulations are in order. To one of the parties, maybe both.


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I'd be curious to know what the dealer paid for that. I'm guessing he's making a killing on it.

ps I'm wondering if the guy who bid $7,025 on it is now praying that someone else bids on it. "What tha heck, was I thinkin?"

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