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In your life, the good, bad and ugly?

In office when I showed up was Truman. In retrospect his most significant decision was to plant a couple of mushrooms in Japan and turn them into lasting allies. Dunno why he didn’t pop one one N. Korea early on. He had an opportunity to prevent the Vietnam war and made a bad call.

Ike was more of a place holder I think. He did little that was momentous. Started no wars.

Kennedy was popular, but was not a good bullet catcher. He opened the door to Vietnam.

LBJ was corrupt and little more.

Nixon got us out of Vietnam and had enough humility to leave office before he was thrown out.

Ford.....-bleh-

Carter? Total bag of bricks IMHO.

Reagan was a leader, one of the best. Buried the Cold War without firing a shot. Yes, he had a few side shows along the way, but he lead us to better times.

Bush 1....place holder mostly. He had enough wisdom to let his Generals plan and execute a very successful campaign against Iraq. Shortest war of our history.

Clinton didn’t have sex with that woman. Highlight of his 8 years in office.

Bush 2....low IQ pussy that led us into a pointless war, the longest of our history.

Obama should be in jail.

Trump did much good for this land and I appreciate his effort. He has also been quite divisive with his manner and I rather think the polarization that resulted will have repercussions for many years to come. He seemed to have a knack for picking cabinet and staff that were/are traitors. Could be he was too trusting.

Biden forecast? Last President to die in office did so about 57 years ago. We are overdo but will not benefit from his passing. He is a worthless and perfectly corrupt individual who will only serve his interests rather than the people of this country.

You should be a presidential historian.

Regarding polarization I believe that had been on track since the late 8os. A fellow soldier in the Army, a young educated black man from Baltimore, told me of the growing black political movement that led to the term "African American" becoming a permanent part of our vocabulary. He told me that many of his college classmates wanted to live in black only communities. The Melting Pot was being replaced by the Salad Bowl. Groups were being pitched against each other, as even in man versus woman, even to the pint of wrecking marriages.

The press and the media got involved in divisiveness as there seemed to be a lot of money in ridiculing George W. San Francisco had a ballot measure to rename the sewage treatment plant after him. It passed.

This divisiveness has been around at least thirty years, but with Trump Derangement Syndrome is had gone too far. Trump did not try too hard to stop it. I think he knew is was futile and he would look as weak as G. W. So I think he just exploited it.

I highly doubt the Senate/deep state would have confirmed any of his picks that would help advance his America first agenda or heaven forbid, investigate and prosecute DC corruption. I thought he did pretty good for being hamstrung by DC.

^^^^ This.

In retrospect, I think Nixon was a good President. He inherited a big mess and did what he could to make it right.

Back when all of the Watergate stuff was going on I wasn't politically aware enough to think much about it. But he was dealing with the same cast of characters that we've got stirring up the schitt today.

People back then said he was paranoid. I don't think so. I believe he knew what was actually going on and his actions made him seem paranoid to people who knew less than he did.

Could not agree more.

Biden was nominated knowing he wouldn't last. He's nothing other than the means to get an unelectable woman into the whitehouse. The only question is how long they'll wait until they 'discover' that he has dementia and dump him.

+1.

Trufe.

I'm happy we got Trump but my favorite is still Reagan overall. If I were alive at the time I may have been a fan of Calvin Coolidge.

I'd say credit is due Eisenhower for the Interstate Highways Act which was rather momentous.

Eisenhower opened the door to Viet Nam, Kennedy was in the process of closing it... Kennedy handled the Cuban missile crisis well. Kennedy's Moon landing mandate jump started much of the tech we enjoy today.

Johnson ramped up Viet Nam and gave us the 'Great Society' and now we're paying for it via all the issues with groids

Nixon normalized relations with the Chi Coms and well, look all around you.

Shame that after Lee Surrendered to Grant a deal wasn't struck to just send them all back to the Dark Continent.

Had I know things were going to get this bad, I would have picked my own cotton....

Eisenhower stopped immigration for a long time in order to allow immigrants to assimilate as Americans which is a good thing.

J.F.K. came from a deeply corrupt family and although a war hero was a basket case of a man. He won by corruption in Chicago that gave him Illinois. Lost by attempting to stare down the mafia.

Mmmm Nixon had the Vietnam war won but caved to popular madness and decided to commit to defeat. It cost a lot of lives. He was a hapless victim of Watergate which was a coup. It accentuates the fact that both parties have been deeply flawed for many years.

L.B.J. was well L.B.J., a democrat crook. He probably destroyed several generations of black people's lives with his socialist agenda.

Ford was an honorable man that didn't manage to destroy too much.

Carter was an antisemite that did manage to destroy a lot.

Reagan was a great leader. his caving to democrats and establishment politicians on immigration contributed greatly to our present woes.

Bush 1 was an old time democrat lite. that Ross Perot destroyed.

Clinton managed to usher us into the age of corruption. He packed the courts and the government agencies. He raided FBI files on congress and used dossiers to coerce politicians. The media along with Perot managed to hide enough of his malfeasance to get him elected.

Bush 2 was a democrat that managed to win two wars and loose both peacetime occupations. He went to war with no plan to win the peace. He followed in his fathers footsteps there. He and his father were globalists.

Obama is a traitor and hates America as founded. He went a long wat in destroying our culture and guided the democrat party further into communism. He led the charge to destroy Trump.

Trump is a great president. His abrasive personality is nothing more than not allowing anyone to control the narrative. he is the most reviled president of our history because he has done the most to bring to light the total corruption of Washington Politics. Both parties have engaged in total war against him for four years.

I'm not saying anyone else is wrong. It's just my view on it.

JFK was shot dead when I was a baby. Mixed feelings about him. Seemed to have been a good one, OTOH his kin are worthless sacks of shixt so...

LBJ was a corrupt bastard.

Nixon seems bad on the surface but the points about him facing an array such as Trump are well made.

Ford was worthless.

Carter was a decent man and smart but at the same time totally out of his depth as President.

Reagan was okay, but IMO overrated.

Bush was worthless.

Clinton was a lying worthless sack of monkey shixt.

Dumbya was a replay of his worthless daddy.

Obama wasn't a legal President. The best you can say about him was that he got very little done.

Trump was the best in my lifetime. The bar wasn't high, but I still hold him in high esteem.

If Trump had Trump's accomplishments and Reagan's personality, he would have won in a landslide.

Biden will not be President. You cannot steal an election in America.

With respect I must differ.

Eisenhower refused to use the US military against North Vietnam, even when France requested it. Kennedy sant 16,000 US combat troops there and approved the coup that assassinated the president of South Vietnam.

Kennedy didn't "handle" the Cuban missile crisis. He created it, by showing weakness in front of Kruschev and doing nothing but whimpering when the Soviets built the Berlin Wall. He was physically weak and couldn't even get through a 4-hour meeting with Kruschev without taking a break for shots for his ailments, which included VD.

Kennedy was a pretty boy whose main interest seemed to be screwing girls. Jackie was going to divorce him but Papa Joe gave her $2,500,000 to stay.

Aside from people feeling sorry he got shot, JFK accomplished almost nothing.

The moon program created very little useful technology. Most of the technological stuff we enjoy was emphasized by the need to miniature stuff to make unmanned satellites and ballistic missiles. Unique moon technology, such as the LEM, has almost no useful purpose for anything else.

all is true of past presidents ,Trump has not been treated with respect, Biden will bring in corruption and this will be the start of lost freedom of America unless something happens soon ?

Regan was the best in my lifetime. First president I ever voted for. Been downhill ever since....

Nixon would have been revered as a very good president if only he hadn't taped everything, or been more circumspect about what he said while he knew the tape recorder was on. He shot himself in the foot.

I hope the events of last week, which the Left is weaponizing to try to destroy people like me, does not have the same effect on trump's legacy.