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The best for me would be the M700 that I’ve carried for the last 40 years.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
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Is the 03 more accurate? probably yes. Is the 03 a stronger, better action, yes. Is the 03's caliber superior to the 303? undoubtedly. Is the o3 a better combat rifle when it comes to reliability? even. But as a combat rifle, not even close and the Germans agreed. Refer to the first German encounter with the BEF in Belgium in 1914. fascinating story on the fast AND accurate rates of fire the Brits put out.. BTW, there are also literally dozens of videos out there on comparing these rifles and it really leaves no doubt..
OK, jorge. Since you're going to make me say it I'll just say it. I hate the English. Therefore, the 03A3 is better.
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Lee Enfield No4 Mk1. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/SKJCL731/Irish-Lee-Enfield-Mk2-770.jpg) Yup.
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This one would work. If it wasn't English. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/YUQ6HHp.jpg)
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I hate the English. Therefore, the 03A3 is better.
No wonder I dislike you so..
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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This one would work. If it wasn't English. Nice one!
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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The Enfield. Except for the ammo re-supply thing.
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Found it in Homestead of all places. I paid $400 or $450. Can't remember exactly.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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How did you come up with that bullschit?
I have heard that since I was a kid, and I am an old grandpa now. Yep, it's an old saw about the three nation's battle rifles. Goes way back. Not sure if it's attributed to anyone in particular. The way I heard it back in the 70s, in reference to WW I: Germany took to war the best hunting rifle in the world. America took to war the best target rifle in the world. The Brits brought the best battle rifle. 100 years later, I still do not like to shoot the cock on close Brit 303. But it is a well known fact that British troops did attain the fastest volley fire with their rifles. As I remember, the tanker carbine I hunted with for a couple years would actually function with 13 plus one. But it has been 35 years. It was also the only one of the war with a detachable magazine. It would have been a simple matter to scrounge up two or three spare mags on the battle field and carry them in your pockets. Then, of course WW II came along and America introduced the greatest battle implement known to man.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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What a ridiculously ill defined topic of discussion. A fight is not a fight is not a fight.
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I built (2) Krags last year, one restoration and one highly modified 25 Krag Ackley sporter. The single bolt lug limits the long term pressure to 30-40 Krag max average pressure 40000 cup = ~ 43,555 psi. That is not good enough for long range with MY limited skills. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/109080.jpg) 25KA with Bartlein barrel, with modified scope mount to get scope close to over the boreline. Like.
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I f I HAD to pick a bolt gun to fight with it would probably be a Ruger Gunsite carbine. Realistically it wouldn't matter much, using a bolt gun in a real fight would most likely result in your death. Civilians taking up arms against government forces is assuredly a quick route to suicide no matter the weapon of choice. Firing upon modern liberals will rapidly result in conflict with government forces
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Ok I just skimmed through this nonsense...... and my conclusion is a Krag is cool and obviously effective... as displayed by Flave. Granted this wasn't battle but he knows a thing or two about battle rifles... ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/SNbrYFDS/IMG-1724.jpg) LOL Where is the empty whiskey bottle?
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LOL
Where is the empty whiskey bottle?
We left it in your mom's ass.
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Reliability and ease of putting rounds in the magazine make my choice a Mauser. Next would be a Ruger 77. A Springfield would be third place unless it had 1903 bottom metal then it would be second. Krag .. with a bayonet.
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Here be dragons ...
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Just to be different--the Steyr Scout. I don't like the long single stack mag of the Ruger Scout.
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The Lee Enfield of course, but I don't have one now, so I'll go with the M-39 Finn. Anything that can't be loaded with a stripper clip or a handful like the Krags or a box mag can be hazardous to your health. Precision is wonderful...unless you are being flanked. I like the M39 and I own one, a VKT. But, nothing beats the Swedish Mauser.
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Fück Joe byron
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The only bolt gun I would consider in a battle is 50 BMG. Only because it is hard to hide from a 50 cal AP round.
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Just to be different--the Steyr Scout. I don't like the long single stack mag of the Ruger Scout. Jeff would be proud.
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