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Winchester 444 carbine #15642495 01/11/21
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Dang I hate to sell this thing but I have no use for it at all .Its the timber carbine xtr big bore 94 in excellent shape .It has the straight grip walnut stock with full length magazine .I bought it to take to Ohio to hunt with .I shot it 5 times and put it away .I use a 260 rem these days my torn rotator cuff is getting worse and even my 338 win mag is no fun to shoot any more . It has the 20 inch barrel full magazine and higher stock and is angle eject . Its 99 percent like new bluing and wood . Its funny everyone thinks it's a little 3030 it's so small .I think it's worth at least $1200 to 1600 was asking here to see what y'all say .I shouldn't nor have been bought it but I wanted to go to Ohio never went .I got a 357 rem max rifle finally to hunt in Ohio if I ever go but I dought I will ever .I really liked my 375 win 94 big bores they were fun to shoot and light this is a little beast !

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Re: Winchester 444 carbine [Re: dgr416] #15647822 01/12/21
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A person hardly ever receives full retail value for a used rifle selling it on your own, In contrast, gun stores have more shoppers and they accept credit cards for payment. Any cash offer over $975.00 should be considered, in my opinion.

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Re: Winchester 444 carbine [Re: dgr416] #15648307 01/12/21
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I really enjoy discussing the Winchester .444 Marlin Rifles. I have no idea what their value might be.
If you are going to purchase a Winchester in .444 Marlin, check the twist rate. Some of the early rifles had a slow twist. My 17.5” Timber rifle has a 1 in 12” twist and I believe all of the 20” carbines have this twist also.
There are a few little things about the .444 Winchesters to bear in mind.
With wide meplat bullets they require deeper bullet seating. This is not a feeding issue but due to th inability of the cartridge to make the turn from the loading gate into the magazine. The Winchester does not have the cutout in the left side of the receiver as in the Marlin rifle.
For example the 310 grain Lee bullet requires a COL of 2.490” for smooth and easy loading. I am able to push the 310 grain bullet to 2,020 fps and a little faster using Hodgdon 4198.
I like my Weaver K2 on my Winchester and shoot deer in motion in the thick brush. I have a 5 minute Lee Dot on this scope and it is quick.
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Re: Winchester 444 carbine [Re: dgr416] #15648531 01/12/21
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I think Sherwood is correct. Unfired ones might go 1200+, or even 1500. I've bought and sold a couple of these and think I got about 900-1000 for ones I fired a few times just a few years ago.


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There is a unfired model 94 444 just like mine on gunbroker for $2800 .I am very under priced according to that price .I have a bunch of 416 rem mag rifles and they are way funner to shoot than this 444 . Its an awesome gun but I will never use it .

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Do an advanced search on GB of that model and you can see what they actually sold for recently, asking price doesn't mean much..
Last year I sold an unfired one with the 20 inch barrel on GB for about 1500.


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Originally Posted by dgr416
There is a unfired model 94 444 just like mine on gunbroker for $2800 .I am very under priced according to that price .I have a bunch of 416 rem mag rifles and they are way funner to shoot than this 444 . Its an awesome gun but I will never use it .


Sounds like you should quit wasting time here and put it on Gunbroker.

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Anyone who knows firearms could buy a nice Winchester 86 or a half way decent 71 for that kind of money, or choose from several Browning 86 or 71s. No offense but your chances of obtaining $2,800 for an 94 AE XTR are slim to none. BTW your 20” full length magazine is not a Timber Carbine Model. The last of the 94 AE BBs made in 444 Marlin were not classified as XTR models they were the 20” half magazine Black Shadow and the 18” half magazine ported barrel Timber Carbine. A select number of those models have a 1-12 twist. Bottom line, the most sought after 94 AE XTR is the 7-30 Waters at around $1,700, next would be the 307 Win at around $1,400.

Re: Winchester 444 carbine [Re: dgr416] #15661376 01/15/21
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I sold my Win 94 444 some years back for the same reason you mentioned. Horrific recoil. I like you also shoot a 260 Rem. Takes mature muley's to elk , no problem. I do have a Win 94 24" Bbl in 44 mag. All I shoot in it is my own home cast bullets. I can control recoil bu adjusting my load.
As to the price of your Win 444 , I would think you need to look at whatt they are actually selling for. What folks are will to actually pay. I see a lot of firearms on GB just setting there with no bids. That tells the real story of value.

Re: Winchester 444 carbine [Re: dgr416] #15662747 01/16/21
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The prices on these more recent, non-30/30 Model 94's are pretty ridiculous, I think. That being said............it's all in what you want. They ain't making them anymore. And they probably never will again. Some of these guns are approaching 45 years old. Some of them............the OP's .444 Marlin included......were only a limited-time offering and, thus, fairly rare. I should have sold all of mine during the "Winchester going out of business" bubble of 2006-2007. But prices seem to be inching back up toward those levels for very nice examples. Mine will probably all go one of these days.


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