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One of my RL 15 5 # is marked Made in USA the other is marked made in Sweden, which seems to be slower. About 1 grain in my Whelen's to reach same speed and accuracy. Works great in the 5 Whelen's I have loaded for.

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I just shot mine today with 59.5 grains of RL15 and 66 grains of AA2000MR. No issues and JD338 as my witness. My rifle is a newer Ruger M77 Hawkeye with a Shilen SS barrel. It’s Shilen’s top shelf barrel with a match grade chamber and 1:14” twist. These loads are stout but the spend cases show zero visible signs of pressure. They look as good as spent factory loads. Recoil is much like a stout 06 or well behaved 300 mag. Both these are accurate loads not just stout loads. I only use Hornady and Nosler brass or reformed quality 06 brass. Remington brass has given me a real headache. Remington brass has hung up in the chamber with book start loads. This is from factory 200 corelokt ammunition and I’ve heard rumors of poor quality brass used in factory ammunition. It’s found a new home in the giggly weeds.


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Originally Posted by kk alaska
One of my RL 15 5 # is marked Made in USA the other is marked made in Sweden, which seems to be slower. About 1 grain in my Whelen's to reach same speed and accuracy. Works great in the 5 Whelen's I have loaded for.


I noticed that anywhere from 55 grains to 60 grains has little to no accuracy difference in my rifle. I settled on 59.5 with zero signs of pressure. I’m going to chrony this and my AA2000MR loads shortly and will post same.


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Originally Posted by 300WinMag

Obviously the lawyers have helped cut the recommended load weights.


I believe that the reason manuals are changing their maximum load has more to do with better means of measuring pressure. Further a maximum load with a Speer 250 grain bullet may be different than with a Hornady, Sierra, or Nosler bullet, other things that affect pressure are: case capacity for different brands of cases, the barrels & primers that are used for testing,


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Don't tar and feather me here but on another forum a guy was using RL17 in a 9.3X62. Have any of you guys tried it in the Whelen? How did it shoot and pressure signs? Just wondering about expanding to another Whelen. I have two 9.3X62s, and a couple of X74s. I realllly need a 35 Whelen. Be Well, RZ.


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Originally Posted by Rustyzipper
Don't tar and feather me here but on another forum a guy was using RL17 in a 9.3X62. Have any of you guys tried it in the Whelen? How did it shoot and pressure signs? Just wondering about expanding to another Whelen. I have two 9.3X62s, and a couple of X74s. I realllly need a 35 Whelen. Be Well, RZ.


I have a buddy that uses it with 225 PT's and Sierra GKs with good accuracy in his 700 CDL.

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Can't see why it wouldn't work just fine with 250's provided you have a long drop tube.

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Brinky, any idea what the velocity on that load is?

I’ve got a R700 CDL-SF in 35 Whelen that I love. I also have a bunch of Hornady 250grain RNs. Shot a nice North Dakota buck a couple of years ago and it was DRT with that bullet. I’d have to look, but I think I had it loaded over IMR4320. Now that 4320 is hard to come by, I am looking for a couple of loads to try. So far I’ve got H4350, but interested in you RL15 load if the velocities promising.

I’ve also got a 358 NM in the works...so I’d say I am a huge fan of the 35s! Another Remington 700 Stainless magnum action, and sent it off to Hart to get it barreled. Can’t wait to shoot that beast.

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Originally Posted by Bulwyeth
Brinky, any idea what the velocity on that load is?

I’ve got a R700 CDL-SF in 35 Whelen that I love. I also have a bunch of Hornady 250grain RNs. Shot a nice North Dakota buck a couple of years ago and it was DRT with that bullet. I’d have to look, but I think I had it loaded over IMR4320. Now that 4320 is hard to come by, I am looking for a couple of loads to try. So far I’ve got H4350, but interested in you RL15 load if the velocities promising.

I’ve also got a 358 NM in the works...so I’d say I am a huge fan of the 35s! Another Remington 700 Stainless magnum action, and sent it off to Hart to get it barreled. Can’t wait to shoot that beast.


I haven’t had a chance to run it yet. Every day I have time the weather is miserable. I’m hoping for this Sunday and will post when I know. Fortunately I was able to get two more pounds of RL15 and two (100 ct) boxes of Hornady 250 grain interlock bullets. Couldn’t find Speer bullets due to current issues. I will work them up to the same level carefully.


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Looking forward to hearing what you come up with. A chrony is on my list of desires, but so many projects, and to little money...

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Originally Posted by Bulwyeth
Brinky, any idea what the velocity on that load is?

I’ve got a R700 CDL-SF in 35 Whelen that I love. I also have a bunch of Hornady 250grain RNs. Shot a nice North Dakota buck a couple of years ago and it was DRT with that bullet. I’d have to look, but I think I had it loaded over IMR4320. Now that 4320 is hard to come by, I am looking for a couple of loads to try. So far I’ve got H4350, but interested in you RL15 load if the velocities promising.

I’ve also got a 358 NM in the works...so I’d say I am a huge fan of the 35s! Another Remington 700 Stainless magnum action, and sent it off to Hart to get it barreled. Can’t wait to shoot that beast.


60 grains of RL15, in an RP case, with a CCI250 and a 250 Nosler and Speer netted me over 2600 every time in my old CDL. It was a great shooting load.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by Bulwyeth
Brinky, any idea what the velocity on that load is?

I’ve got a R700 CDL-SF in 35 Whelen that I love. I also have a bunch of Hornady 250grain RNs. Shot a nice North Dakota buck a couple of years ago and it was DRT with that bullet. I’d have to look, but I think I had it loaded over IMR4320. Now that 4320 is hard to come by, I am looking for a couple of loads to try. So far I’ve got H4350, but interested in you RL15 load if the velocities promising.

I’ve also got a 358 NM in the works...so I’d say I am a huge fan of the 35s! Another Remington 700 Stainless magnum action, and sent it off to Hart to get it barreled. Can’t wait to shoot that beast.


60 grains of RL15, in an RP case, with a CCI250 and a 250 Nosler and Speer netted me over 2600 every time in my old CDL. It was a great shooting load.


Awesome. Thanks Beretzs!

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Today was sunny, clear and about 20 degrees. I ran my load of 59.5 grains of RL15, WLR primer and a 250 grain Speer, Hornady brass. My rifle is a Ruger 77 with a 1:14” Shilen SS top shelf barrel. High was 2656 FPS , low 2620 FPS and average for a five shot string was 2637.8 FPS . Next was AA2000MR. I ran 66.0 grains with WLR and WLRM primers. Standard primers high was 2760 FPS, low 2700 FPS and average was 2729.7 FPS. Magnum primers ran high of 2737 FPS , low of 2704 FPS and average of 2719.7 FPS for the string. With this I had absolutely no signs of pressure. I gave my information to M1garand to run it through quick load and he was able to give me a pressure of 62,881 psi. Again this is MY RIFLE. But it gives you an idea of how anemic the lawyers have made the Whelen. A quick look at factory 250 grain 338 Winchester Magnum will give 2660 FPS for Remington Corelokt. 2660 for Federal Fusion and 2600 even for Nosler Premium partitions. I’m sure that the grand old 338 Win Mag suffers the same malady as the Whelen does in factory dress but prudent and safe loading gets me there with the Whelen.


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brinky I don't know where in the Great Lakes area you are but it's colder than a well digger's ass here in MI. I've followed this thread just waiting to try some of the recommendations in my #1. I know the deer will thank me for it this fall smile

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With that expression I have no doubt you’re from Michigan. I’m north of Grand Rapids in Cedar Springs.

The RL15 load I’m running showed zero signs of pressure back in September when we had a warm streak. Others I know have been running that load and heavier for some time with zero issues. Every rifle is unique so approach with caution like any load. I’ve owned a few No.1’s including a Medium Sporter in 45-70 that I loaded at +P levels. No doubt yours will run stout loads. As stated above, the loads I’m running aren’t excessive just honest and where they should be. The AA2000MR load is just under book max. The 35 Whelen is a hammer even at lawyer pressure. Prudent loading is just more of a good thing.


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Originally Posted by Bulwyeth

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Brinky, any idea what the velocity on that load is?

I’ve got a R700 CDL-SF in 35 Whelen that I love. I also have a bunch of Hornady 250grain RNs. Shot a nice North Dakota buck a couple of years ago and it was DRT with that bullet. I’d have to look, but I think I had it loaded over IMR4320. Now that 4320 is hard to come by, I am looking for a couple of loads to try. So far I’ve got H4350, but interested in you RL15 load if the velocities promising.

I’ve also got a 358 NM in the works...so I’d say I am a huge fan of the 35s! Another Remington 700 Stainless magnum action, and sent it off to Hart to get it barreled. Can’t wait to shoot that beast.


60 grains of RL15, in an RP case, with a CCI250 and a 250 Nosler and Speer netted me over 2600 every time in my old CDL. It was a great shooting load.


Awesome. Thanks Beretzs!


I developed my load using Beretz’s advice. He is spot on with his loading.


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Originally Posted by brinky72
Today was sunny, clear and about 20 degrees. I ran my load of 59.5 grains of RL15, WLR primer and a 250 grain Speer, Hornady brass. My rifle is a Ruger 77 with a 1:14” Shilen SS top shelf barrel. High was 2656 FPS , low 2620 FPS and average for a five shot string was 2637.8 FPS . Next was AA2000MR. I ran 66.0 grains with WLR and WLRM primers. Standard primers high was 2760 FPS, low 2700 FPS and average was 2729.7 FPS. Magnum primers ran high of 2737 FPS , low of 2704 FPS and average of 2719.7 FPS for the string. With this I had absolutely no signs of pressure. I gave my information to M1garand to run it through quick load and he was able to give me a pressure of 62,881 psi. Again this is MY RIFLE. But it gives you an idea of how anemic the lawyers have made the Whelen. A quick look at factory 250 grain 338 Winchester Magnum will give 2660 FPS for Remington Corelokt. 2660 for Federal Fusion and 2600 even for Nosler Premium partitions. I’m sure that the grand old 338 Win Mag suffers the same malady as the Whelen does in factory dress but prudent and safe loading gets me there with the Whelen.


Absolute hammer. I really got to get me a Whelen to go with all my other 35 caliber cartridges!

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