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In heartbeat if in the right caliber and price was within reason, some of the best rifles i own or owned were made there.
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If Savage could contract with Miroku to make new Savage 1899s, would you buy them?
I was recently offered a deal on a Winchester 1892 take-down trapper style carbine, one of the Davidson's specials in 44-40, and was impressed by how well it was made, fit and finish wise. It wasn't a rifle that I was interested in, but I was thinking that a Miroku 1899 250-3000 rifle would be a nice to have if the price was under $1,200. What about a run of 1899CD's in 38-55, 25-35, 32-40, 30-30? I doubt many of us would buy one, but the less dedicated collector might toss out $1500-$1800 for one to display. Definitely have no hesitation to purchase any Miroku firearm based on quality. Miroku quality, fit and finish from the several I own is top notch for any non-custom current production. As much as I admire collector grade 99’s and am amazed and learn from the collections here I am a shooter Depending on the model I would purchase a Miroku 99 to be able to afford and shoot without hesitation an otherwise “unobtainium” model😀
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I would buy a Miroku 99 .358 in a heartbeat.
I own three Miroku made Brownings and every one of them have been totally reliable with great fit and finish.
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If I were in the market for yet another hunting rifle (and I'm not) I would certainly consider a Miroku-made 99. Those folks know how to build a flawless smooth operating rifle. I currently own two Miroku-built guns, a Browning Low Wall .223 and a Winchester/Miroku Low Wall .22 rimfire, and have owned other Winchester clones and O/U shotguns made by Miroku and am here to tell you they are absolutely first rate guns. Easily the equal of their progenitors, and frankly better in most aspects.
I betcha in another generation these will be collectible in their own right. Miroku made at least one dog, the Winchester 101 Grand European combination guns and O/U double rifles with rifle barrels that didn't have any mechanism to regulate the rifle barrels.
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I have a Miroku 1885 Low Wall that's a very nice rifle. If Miroku built a 99 for Savage I would get over it. There's a ton of Miroku Browning and Winchesters out there, meaning that those guys got over it. The domestic 99s have and always woud be a different beast, but a Miroku made 99 wld not be a slouch by any measure.
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A Miroku built 99 be well made. Without a doubt. Nothing could be worse than a Spanish 99. Would I buy a Miroku 99? NO Never.
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I'm with pacecars, any scaled down 99 for the 222/223 family of cartridges is on my really short list, like my list of 1! I wouldn't care if it was made in Bangledesh!
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What I would not buy is a 99 clone made in The People's Republic of China. Zimbabwe, maybe, but not China.
Wouldn't it be cool if they made the first ones in .22 High Power, with, like, a 1-8" twist? I would definitely be standing at their doorstep waving fist full's of Benjamins at them
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I'm sure they could make a very nice rifle.
But it wouldn't be the same....
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SADLY, I have to agree with gnoahhh. Again.
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I have a 300 Savage 99 now, and so I would not, but if I was looking for a 99 I might just buy one.
I've owned several Brownings made there, and all have been excellent. Two 86s, a 92, a 71, two 95s, and a M12 20 gauge shotgun. All were beautifully made
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They all better be Monarchs , and cheap as dirt. I need some walnut stocks to put things back in order.
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forget the 30-06 class of cartridges. Savage tried to develop a 99 for those higher pressure cartridges in the 1990's. It wouldn't work due to the four degree angle where the back of the bolt locks to the receiver. The higher pressure cartridges would disengage the bolt on firing. The 30-06 prototype from the 1930s is shown on page 87 of my book. The long receiver is ugly.
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I have three Miroku's. Two Winchester 52C's and a Winchester 65 in .218 Bee. All rifles I wanted growing up but didn't have or didn't want to put the money out for a top condition one.
Would I buy a Miroku 99EG in .300 Sav...no! Not realy excited about an engraved one but maybe like Rory said an 1899CD in 38-55, 25-35, 32-40, 30-30...make it a short rifle, or a Barrel Band in 22HP with a fast twist or in .223. It would have to be a version that I wish they had made but didn't or one that an original cost more than the reproduction.
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Can't buy a decent original 25-35, maybe that'd punch my ticket.
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I would definitely consider buying one in .358 W. Especially if it was significantly cheaper.
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Nope! Whatever the dollar figure it would take, I'd buy a 99 made in the U.S. of A. instead and have a 'Real' 99! While Miroku does do quality work from what I've seen, I buy USA as much and when I can. No Japanese cars thank you. Definitely no China products if I can help it.
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