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The one that surprises me is the somewhat low’ish BC on that 175 Sierra. I’d have guessed it would’ve been a bit more slippery. Not that .600+ is bad but I’d have thought it’d been higher.
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The round is supposedly in its groove with 165’s at 2900 something, near 3000.
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The round is supposedly in its groove with 165’s at 2900 something, near 3000. Not a bad game getter in my opinion. I’ve got a 270 WSM that’s near a new barrel.
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Rebated rim...
It's a 6.8 WSM.
Thank goodness for the Metric system, without it they'd have to call it the 270WSM 2.0.
The 6.8W case length looks to be 0.10" shorter than the 270WSM, but the OAL looks to be the same.
Pretty weird. I guess it might get you into long bullets w/o having to go to a mid length action. We should be expecting a 6.5Western, 30Western, 6Western, 7Western...
These probably won't feed out of a binderless AICS mag, but who knows.
With a name like "Western" they'll have to offer it in a lever gun— enter the Browning BLR chambered in 6.8 Western with a 2 round detachable magazine.
I'm not getting it.
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Rebated rim...
It's a 6.8 WSM.
Thank goodness for the Metric system, without it they'd have to call it the 270WSM 2.0.
The 6.8W case length looks to be 0.10" shorter than the 270WSM, but the OAL looks to be the same.
Pretty weird. I guess it might get you into long bullets w/o having to go to a mid length action. We should be expecting a 6.5Western, 30Western, 6Western, 7Western...
These probably won't feed out of a binderless AICS mag, but who knows.
With a name like "Western" they'll have to offer it in a lever gun— enter the Browning BLR chambered in 6.8 Western with a 2 round detachable magazine.
I'm not getting it. They shortened the case so that 1) they could call it something different and not have to pay Jamison royalties on the WSM cartridges anymore, and 2) allow for seating of heavier bullets to fit in a standard mag box, which is the biggest downfall of the WSM cartridges.
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I guess I’m missing something because it doesn’t make me wanna run out and get one. I’m sure it’s a good cartridge, just doesn’t do anything a lot of other cartridges do that I already own. I do applaud their ingenuity though.
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I guess I’m missing something because it doesn’t make me wanna run out and get one. I’m sure it’s a good cartridge, just doesn’t do anything a lot of other cartridges do that I already own. I do applaud their ingenuity though. Same here.
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kinda looks like a chubby Grendel....
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The round is supposedly in its groove with 165’s at 2900 something, near 3000. I can do the same thing all day long with my old 7mm Mag. Why would I need this caliber if that is what I want to do?
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If mother fugkers fell for the bologna virus, then why not fall for the "Western" ?lmao
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It saves 4 oz of weight for the short action for those faint at heart. Hint: Eat fewer Quarter Pounders and not notice the increased rifle weight.
I’ll keep the 175 gr at 3,009 fps or 150 gr TTSX at 3,200 fps in my outdated 7mm Roy.
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Our new local Fleet & Farm store opened with 1/3 of their shelves empty late last fall that's store wide with most stock now appearing. There gun dept had 50 % empty displays now down to 85-90 empty only ammo in the place yesterday was a case of the new 6.8 Western and there is not a gun so chambered in town. They build ammo for guns not availible but can't build enough ammo for guns availible and allready in the hands of the public. Am I the only [bleep] person in the world who thinks that a lot of 30 & 40 something marketing ass*oles would be more productive flipping burgers at a fast food dump? Mb
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Think it's a fine cartridge for the one rifle hunter who also wants to shoot over 400 yards.
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It is actually a nicely balanced cartridge... if I were inclined to shooting knitting needles, I would definitely get one... particularly once the 7mm version is released (because I miss the 7mm WSM)... but as a hunter who "hunts," I am inclined to shoot reasonable bullet weights considering case capacity... like 150's in this one, in which case, there is no need for the fast twist, in which case, might aswell just shoot a .270.
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At least it looks neat......
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Looks like a pretty good cartridge to me.
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Looks like a pretty good cartridge to me. I’ve got a 270 WSM that is dieing for some twist.
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6.8 Western? I'll pass, already have a 270 Win.
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The 6.8 Western is a decent cartridge but doesn't offer much of anything to someone with a 6.5PRC, 270 Win, .280 Rem, 280AI or 7mm RM.
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Seems like if you screwed an 8.5 twist barrel appropriately throated on your 270 you would have the same thing. But then again I was never a short stroker.
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I fail to see why you would jump on this chamber. It will have limited rifle manufacturing well behind the popularity and manufacturing of the 6.5 PRC. In addition it offers nothing in the hunting field over the 270 WSM. Granted it is twisted to apply heavy for caliber upper BC .277 projectiles, but honestly the WSM is a bit faster with 160 grain bullets, which work fine in a 10 twist. Finally the .277 made its bones with 130, 140 and 150 grain weight class bullets in a 10 twist on game from all walks of life under a multitude of hunting conditions, terrains and elevations. So if a 270 WCF, 270 WSM or 270 Wby give you magnum velocities with bullets from 130-160 grains, where exactly does the Western fit in for the .277 enthusiasts other than hurling 170 grain class bullets at game?
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Hunters and shooters are constantly buying different calibers that are similar or slightly different but preform about the same. My guess is plenty of them will buy this one as well. How many of us have four to ten rifles with calibers that do about the same thing but maybe in different rifle weights and configurations. Not interested myself but it will be interesting to watch to see what rifles they offer it in.
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I’m all for it, and anything else that they can make and sell a bunch of. Won’t be getting one myself as I have two regular .270s, which are both more rifle than needed most of the time, plus a bunch of other rifles. Looks like they did a pretty good job on this one. Oughta also make it easier on those who’ve been trying to push the envelope on the other 6.8s without any bullets to speak of.
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Once again, a good round that doesn’t do anything a handful of other cartridges don’t do. An answer to a question that nobody asked.
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Rebated rim...
It's a 6.8 WSM.
Thank goodness for the Metric system, without it they'd have to call it the 270WSM 2.0.
The 6.8W case length looks to be 0.10" shorter than the 270WSM, but the OAL looks to be the same.
Pretty weird. I guess it might get you into long bullets w/o having to go to a mid length action. We should be expecting a 6.5Western, 30Western, 6Western, 7Western...
These probably won't feed out of a binderless AICS mag, but who knows.
With a name like "Western" they'll have to offer it in a lever gun— enter the Browning BLR chambered in 6.8 Western with a 2 round detachable magazine.
I'm not getting it. It's just another short-action .270
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I see ammo for it on the shelves everywhere.
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I see ammo for it on the shelves everywhere. Because no one has a rifle for it!! !!LOL!
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Yea. The stack of ammo has just been sitting I see ammo for it on the shelves everywhere. Because no one has a rifle for it!! !!LOL! The stack on the local shelf has just been sitting there for close to 3 weeks now... Right next to the RUM's, WSM's, Weatherby's, etc.
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I see ammo for it on the shelves everywhere. Because no one has a rifle for it!! !!LOL! Eggggxactly! Lol
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ShootingTimes had a very good article on the 6.8 Western a month or so ago. JVB did a very good job explaining the rationale behind it.
It is supposed to be a better 6.5 PRC with less recoil than a 7mmRM or a 300WM. Not really needed, but OK in it's own right. If I was starting over, I'd strongly consider it.
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Wonder if they’ll chamber it in this year’s 1885s?
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Wonder if they’ll chamber it in this year’s 1885s? Looked. Don’t see it. Too bad.
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Like most of the new popular calibers, it’s entirely capable, but doesn’t do anything a half dozen other calibers do.
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It gets a high bc bullet in the game for .277 lovers. Looks to be a good well thought out round but I am suspecting a bit late to the party. If I was in the market for such a round it surely would be a consideration. However I am old school and enjoy the HUNT, which to me is getting closer for a shot.
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The almost 60 year old 7mm Rem Mag with rebarreled 1-8 twist and throated to specs will easily outshine the 6.8 Western with 162, 175 and 180+ grain class bullets. BCs from .630 to .800+, more aerodynamic and faster than the 6.8 Western out of the gate. On LA like Howa, Remington, etc., no problem with the longest, sleekest of 7mm bullets. Can’t see the need at all for the 6.8 Western. Could also easily rebarrel and throat a 270 WSM for fast twist and do the exact same thing.
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I've got one .270 and it's the old standby Winchester. I'm a hunter but being an old curmudgeon I'm not into super long range shots at game. I'm thinkin' there's too much to go wrong. So I limit my shots to 400-500 yards, if that. But I would like to shoot heavy for caliber bullets at game, maybe 160-175 grains. Also, though I don't shoot at game at long distance I would like a rifle capable of punching paper at 1000 yards.
So why a .270? Because on that other forum I belong to there's a lot of .270 haters and I just want to prove to them that the .277 diameter is capable, (Yeah I'm an agitator like that, LOL!.) This cartridge is perfect for that purpose. I like it.
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