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. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris.



He was never going to be accepted by anyone on the left. He most assuredly did himself a disservice with more independent minded people by picking fights he should not have. Fighting on stage with Dr. Fauci was dumb. Picking fights with entertainers like Lebron was dumb. The comments he made about John McCain were a horrible miscalculation that cost himself and Republicans dearly. Arizona is no longer red, and he owns that. Arizonans of all flavors revered McCain. Him schidting on McCain's grave made a few on the right happy, but he didn't need to that to stay in their good graces. Ultimately his mouth and his arrogance cost him.


You should have stopped writing after the first sentence.


Let's explore one part of my post. McCain. Do you think Trump's treatment of McCain won over any voters?

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Here is a reply I sent to a friend who asked, "Whose side are you on?".

I'm on Trump's side and have been since shortly after he announced.

Trouble is there is not much left of his "side". He certainly would not have suffered the indignity of being impeached TWICE and the second time with significant bi-partisan support. Not much chance he will be convicted in the Senate but there will be significant bi-partisan support for conviction, much more than the first time. And, all of this impeachment crap because of what those azzhole "patriots" did. No other reason.

Because of that, and a few other things that happened since the election, politically he is dead meat. After he leaves office his life will be consumed fighting civil and criminal charges. His financial empire is crumbling. Powerful friends and allies, including his wife, are deserting him. All he really has left are the the "little people" like you and me who do not have the money, influence, or votes to help him.

I would not be surprised if he fled this country to live in exile in a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the USA.

The Wife and I, especially The Wife, are grieving over this whole mess. Maybe we will visit him in exile. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris. Think classical Greek tragedy.

If you ever studied ancient Greek mythology you might agree.





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Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Here is a reply I sent to a friend who asked, "Whose side are you on?".

I'm on Trump's side and have been since shortly after he announced.

. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris. Think classical Greek tragedy.

If you ever studied ancient Greek mythology you might agree.





I respectfully disagree, to a point. Yes, somewhat like Oedipus, Trump said, "I can". But he mostly said, "We Can".

He was not brought down by hubris but by a concentrated cabal of greedy ambitious like minded people.

So it is not as much as Sophocles' "Oedipus" as Plato's "Apology".


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris.



He was never going to be accepted by anyone on the left. He most assuredly did himself a disservice with more independent minded people by picking fights he should not have. Fighting on stage with Dr. Fauci was dumb. Picking fights with entertainers like Lebron was dumb. The comments he made about John McCain were a horrible miscalculation that cost himself and Republicans dearly. Arizona is no longer red, and he owns that. Arizonans of all flavors revered McCain. Him schidting on McCain's grave made a few on the right happy, but he didn't need to that to stay in their good graces. Ultimately his mouth and his arrogance cost him.


You should have stopped writing after the first sentence.


Let's explore one part of my post. McCain. Do you think Trump's treatment of McCain won over any voters?
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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris.



He was never going to be accepted by anyone on the left. He most assuredly did himself a disservice with more independent minded people by picking fights he should not have. Fighting on stage with Dr. Fauci was dumb. Picking fights with entertainers like Lebron was dumb. The comments he made about John McCain were a horrible miscalculation that cost himself and Republicans dearly. Arizona is no longer red, and he owns that. Arizonans of all flavors revered McCain. Him schidting on McCain's grave made a few on the right happy, but he didn't need to that to stay in their good graces. Ultimately his mouth and his arrogance cost him.


Pretty good summary.

But we have to know that his brashness was also a very big factor in his popularity.

He made mistakes because he is human and mostly because everything he ever uttered was under a microscope.

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Spanx do you still have a facebook acct?


I never check Facebook. I think I may have an account but not sure. Why do you axt?


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. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris.



He was never going to be accepted by anyone on the left. He most assuredly did himself a disservice with more independent minded people by picking fights he should not have. Fighting on stage with Dr. Fauci was dumb. Picking fights with entertainers like Lebron was dumb. The comments he made about John McCain were a horrible miscalculation that cost himself and Republicans dearly. Arizona is no longer red, and he owns that. Arizonans of all flavors revered McCain. Him schidting on McCain's grave made a few on the right happy, but he didn't need to that to stay in their good graces. Ultimately his mouth and his arrogance cost him.




But we have to know that his brashness was also a very big factor in his popularity.



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Without a doubt his willingness to smack certain folks down was part of his popularity and it helped him get into office. He just couldn't seem to grasp when certain fights were of no possible value.

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Those Jeb Bush slaps were hilarious

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Those Jeb Bush slaps were hilarious


And “Little Marco”.


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Those Jeb Bush slaps were hilarious


Those were an integral part of his success. He had to beat Jeb.

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Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

Here is a reply I sent to a friend who asked, "Whose side are you on?".

I'm on Trump's side and have been since shortly after he announced.

Trouble is there is not much left of his "side". He certainly would not have suffered the indignity of being impeached TWICE and the second time with significant bi-partisan support. Not much chance he will be convicted in the Senate but there will be significant bi-partisan support for conviction, much more than the first time. And, all of this impeachment crap because of what those azzhole "patriots" did. No other reason.

Because of that, and a few other things that happened since the election, politically he is dead meat. After he leaves office his life will be consumed fighting civil and criminal charges. His financial empire is crumbling. Powerful friends and allies, including his wife, are deserting him. All he really has left are the the "little people" like you and me who do not have the money, influence, or votes to help him.

I would not be surprised if he fled this country to live in exile in a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the USA.

The Wife and I, especially The Wife, are grieving over this whole mess. Maybe we will visit him in exile. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris. Think classical Greek tragedy.

If you ever studied ancient Greek mythology you might agree.


Spano you are incredibly ill informed. President Trump and his 80 million supporters love this exceptional country, based on our Constitution and Declaration of Independence. One day ye shall know the truth, and the truth will make you free.


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Hi biggest and perhaps only fault is picking fights that he cannot win. For instance McCain. That was a stupid mistake and gave us fulll-bore Obama Care and, worse, flipped Arizona.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris.



He was never going to be accepted by anyone on the left. He most assuredly did himself a disservice with more independent minded people by picking fights he should not have. Fighting on stage with Dr. Fauci was dumb. Picking fights with entertainers like Lebron was dumb. The comments he made about John McCain were a horrible miscalculation that cost himself and Republicans dearly. Arizona is no longer red, and he owns that. Arizonans of all flavors revered McCain. Him schidting on McCain's grave made a few on the right happy, but he didn't need to that to stay in their good graces. Ultimately his mouth and his arrogance cost him.




But we have to know that his brashness was also a very big factor in his popularity.



Jmo


Without a doubt his willingness to smack certain folks down was part of his popularity and it helped him get into office. He just couldn't seem to grasp when certain fights were of no possible value.




Very true, Paul but when you’re all alone and totally surrounded by assailants you might ought better be swinging at anything and everything.

No doubt that the McCain thing cost him and the rest of us.

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"I shouldn’t joke, I shouldn’t joke because you know what? Running against the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics puts pressure on me. Could you imagine if I lose?" Trump said at the time.

"My whole life — what am I going to do? I’m going to say, I lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics! I’m not going to feel so good. Maybe I’ll have to leave the country, I don’t know."


Syc, the only problem with your little attempt at scorn is Trump never has and never will "say" . . . "I lost" . . . because he didn't lose. The election was stolen by the communists (Democrats, Fake Media and Globalists.) Do you deny that fact?


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What criminal charges will he face ?


There are a number of criminal charges pending. Give it a week or so after B is sworn in and we will all exactly what he will be charged with. Now, conviction is an entirely different matter.


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. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris.



He was never going to be accepted by anyone on the left. He most assuredly did himself a disservice with more independent minded people by picking fights he should not have. Fighting on stage with Dr. Fauci was dumb. Picking fights with entertainers like Lebron was dumb. The comments he made about John McCain were a horrible miscalculation that cost himself and Republicans dearly. Arizona is no longer red, and he owns that. Arizonans of all flavors revered McCain. Him schidting on McCain's grave made a few on the right happy, but he didn't need to that to stay in their good graces. Ultimately his mouth and his arrogance cost him.


Your post sounds like a CNN host reading his teleprompter. You actually believe everything you wrote?


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What criminal charges will he face ?


There are a number of criminal charges pending. Give it a week or so after B is sworn in and we will all exactly what he will be charged with. Now, conviction is an entirely different matter.


Designed to drain him financially which is a part of the rush to impeach and convict.


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. . . I’m surprised hiden Biden hasn’t pushed to moved the inauguration to virtual / televised only.
Least they can lie about the crowds them.


As Biden raises money for his virtual inauguration, lobbyists prepare for a scaled-down schmooze-fest

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I don't put much stock in any political party. I am on the side of the Constitution and vote according. For the last 30 years that means the DEMs have not made my cut but after this year I'm not 100% that the GOP will ever make it again. Both sides have shown disdain for the Constitution and that does not bode well for the nation. I fear our republic may very well cease to exist as we know it and the direction both parties have been taking will make it VERY hard to ever get it back. I see no way other than open rebellion and civil war. I pray I am wrong, but I don't think I am.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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. But I cannot help thinking that his plight was brought about in large part by his own hubris.



He was never going to be accepted by anyone on the left. He most assuredly did himself a disservice with more independent minded people by picking fights he should not have. Fighting on stage with Dr. Fauci was dumb. Picking fights with entertainers like Lebron was dumb. The comments he made about John McCain were a horrible miscalculation that cost himself and Republicans dearly. Arizona is no longer red, and he owns that. Arizonans of all flavors revered McCain. Him schidting on McCain's grave made a few on the right happy, but he didn't need to that to stay in their good graces. Ultimately his mouth and his arrogance cost him.


You should have stopped writing after the first sentence.


Let's explore one part of my post. McCain. Do you think Trump's treatment of McCain won over any voters?

Won me over and most of the people I know. We were aware of McCain's back door deals, and left leaning politics.. Surprised anyone thought McCain was worth a [bleep] as a leader of his constituents!

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