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You left out the Russkies.

Well, that's an interesting sidebar to history. The 7.62x54r was made to be shot from the Mosin Nagant rifle. The Russians came up with the cartridge in 1891. It was inspired by the 303 British. The British had designed the 303 British a few years earlier, in the 1880s. The country was ruled at the time by Queen Victoria.

The queen's granddaughter was Alexandra, the future Tsarina of Russia. While Alexandra didn't marry the Tsar until 1894, one of the wedding gifts was outfitting the Russian Empire's army with the new cartridge.

It is important to point out that the same cartridge was used to execute the Tsar and his family, along with many of the tsar's supporters. I had a prof who argued that the 7.62x54r was one of the tools that helped to curtail inbreeding and reduce the number of royals in Europe.

Ah, history! It is fascinating, is it not, tovaritsch?

Lol, an explanation so tortured “must” be true!

The truth is stranger than fiction.



It's no coincidence that the 308 Winchester and the 303 British have the same case volume - 56 grains of water.

It's no coincidence that when you blow out the case walls and increase the shoulder to 20 degrees (308 Win) from 16 degrees (303 British), the case length is reduced from 2.21inches to 2.015 inches. The 308 Winchester is merely what designers call an improved 303 British case.

It's no coincidence that the Winchester design crew looked to the 303 British for inspiration. At the time, the 303 Britishwas one of the most used (and copied) military and sporting designs in the world.

It's no coincidence that the name 'Winchester' is of British origin.

In brief, the 308 Winchester is a knock off of the 303 British.

Man, you should write conspiracy theories for Qanon.

There is a lot of misinformation out there.

Scotsman William "Hagg" Leever designed what would become the first magazine fed rifle (that worked) in the 1850s. Leever, and his best friend, Johnny Tubb, inventor of the tubular magazine, worked together in their workshop in Edinburgh, Scotland. Leever did not know his design had crossed the ocean. It became known as the lever (sic) rifle after an eastern US newspaper misspelled Hagg Leever's name.

Boxer priming was designed by a Brit, Eddie Boxer, but was adopted by the US. American Hiram Berdan came up with the Berdan priming system which was a big hit in Europe. It just goes to show you how much the Euros wanna be like the US.

Smokeless powder isn't powder, and it's not smokeless, but they called it that.

Single shot rifles can be fired more than once.

Shotguns are only shot guns after you load it and pull the trigger.

Our guide in newfoundland used a .308 with factory 150's. Whatever was cheapest.
Said only the local kids used magnums.