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Originally Posted by There_Ya_Go
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Which is what, pappa Clark?


#1: The family court system.

#2: Unlimited porn at no cost.


I think you are wrong. There would be no need for the family court system if everyone who got married, stayed married. The family court system, in other words, is the result of the "Hookup Culture", not the cause.

As to #2, technology has indeed made it available at no cost, but the problem began long before the technology existed.

Both of the factors you cite are making matters worse, but they are not causes; rather, they are effects. I think humanity got on the slippery slope it is on now back in the '60s during the hippie era of "free love." There is no such thing. If it's free, it's not love and if it's love, it's not free.


^^^Part of the problem.^^^


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It did. The source of the problem is in people's hearts and minds, not some pictures or laws. I don't blame the gun for violence either.


I know men in their 40's and in their 20's that don't want to get married or have a long term relationship.

It's not due to being morally bankrupt. It's due to the family court system in the United States.


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Give away half your stuff.....and half your future stuff?


Sign me up!


Half?

In some states that'd be getting off easy.


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Probably a quarter of people married today.....shouldn't be.


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A big part of the problem is, a lot of young people today don't see any path to making enough money to set up housekeeping and raising kids.

Another is, young men are shying away from marriage because in the event of a divorce, the man will be financially ruined for all of eternity.

Basically, young people see the marriage "thing" as something that's not available to them. It's something the previous generations participated in.


All that's true. Another issue is that young people who spent their teens and twenties "hooking up" with everything that walks are damaged to the point that they're incapable of forming a committed relationship. The saying that "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" is true, if they view sex as something as mundane as shopping for groceries then they're likely to cheat on you the first times they get pissed off at you, and as any married man knows they're pissed off at you half the time. The likelihood of being cheated on if you marry one of these hookup culture partners is extremely high, then you've got to decide if you'll put up with it and stay married or divorce them and lose most of your money and property.



Yes, Crow hunter. There are a huge number of people completely damaged and broken by the hook-up culture. But I believe healing is possible. For anyone and everyone.


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I did it the non traditional way I guess. Didnt get married til 42. Never wanted kids, so it took awhile to find a decent woman who shared my values and goals. Seems like all the women I dated all wanted kids. Found my wife and we both knew it was meant to be. If I had found her at 22 I would have married her then.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by There_Ya_Go
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by oldtrapper
Which is what, pappa Clark?


#1: The family court system.

#2: Unlimited porn at no cost.


I think you are wrong. There would be no need for the family court system if everyone who got married, stayed married. The family court system, in other words, is the result of the "Hookup Culture", not the cause.

As to #2, technology has indeed made it available at no cost, but the problem began long before the technology existed.

Both of the factors you cite are making matters worse, but they are not causes; rather, they are effects. I think humanity got on the slippery slope it is on now back in the '60s during the hippie era of "free love." There is no such thing. If it's free, it's not love and if it's love, it's not free.


^^^Part of the problem.^^^


What you say about the family court system and the effects it is having on men wanting to get married is undoubtedly true, but it didn't simply appear out of whole cloth in order to undermine the institution of marriage. It is simply the outgrowth of the philosophy that humans are just another form of animal. This leads to a predator-prey relationship among people and a "screw everything in sight but don't get married" mentality.


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I find it sorta funny that a bunch of older men would have an opinion on the younger generation's sexual and marriage habits when they all brag endlessly about the sexual exploits of their past....and fall over each other to high five the 14 year old being screwed by the civics teacher.

Today's young people exist in the appropriate time.

Whats next? A home ownership thread?

Things change.

Maybe its a good trend. Fewer marriages equal fewer divorces.


Some jackleg working for the Catholics named O'Malley gonna tell me and mine whats up?


Uhh....no.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by oldtrapper



It did. The source of the problem is in people's hearts and minds, not some pictures or laws. I don't blame the gun for violence either.


I know men in their 40's and in their 20's that don't want to get married or have a long term relationship.

It's not due to being morally bankrupt. It's due to the family court system in the United States.



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Who in their right mind would start a family in the last 10 years in America?

Everything is against a man wanting to raise a family the way nature intended.

And yeah it starts with the courts.

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Originally Posted by oldtrapper


You say egg; I say chicken. ;-{>8



Wanting to fugk a lot is not unique to today's generation.

Their views on marriage is.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Originally Posted by Beretta_Shooter916
I did it the non traditional way I guess. Didnt get married til 42. Never wanted kids, so it took awhile to find a decent woman who shared my values and goals. Seems like all the women I dated all wanted kids. Found my wife and we both knew it was meant to be. If I had found her at 22 I would have married her then.


Why didn't you want kids?


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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I find it sorta funny that a bunch of older men would have an opinion on the younger generation's sexual and marriage habits when they all brag endlessly about the sexual exploits of their past....and fall over each other to high five the 14 year old being screwed by the civics teacher.

Today's young people exist in the appropriate time.

Whats next? A home ownership thread?

Things change.

Maybe its a good trend. Fewer marriages equal fewer divorces.


Some jackleg working for the Catholics named O'Malley gonna tell me and mine whats up?


Uhh....no.





The majority of those passing judgement think the family court systems are perfectly fine.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Being a Mom means not dumping your kid(s) off at daycare/preschool because you have a "job" and need to be "whatever". Being a Mom is the highest calling a woman could ever have. That does NOT mean dumping your kid(s) off for someone else to raise during their formative years. It means being there with them for their first 5-6 years minimum all day, every day. If being around your kid is tiresome, or loathesome then you should have had your tubes tied and gone on pretending to be a man or working a room at a cathouse.



This is a truth that has been buried by the "women's movement."

I've always said that WWII brought this on. Women built the planes and the guns for the war effort, and it seems many got the idea that they should stay in the workforce so they could accumulate more stuff. From there everything cascaded. Divorce became the norm rather than the exception, then cohabitation, then came the sugar daddy and casual hookups. We see where it leads us: right here where we are now.

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What has brought America to its knees is a moral and spiritual crisis.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
A big part of the problem is, a lot of young people today don't see any path to making enough money to set up housekeeping and raising kids.

Another is, young men are shying away from marriage because in the event of a divorce, the man will be financially ruined for all of eternity.

Basically, young people see the marriage "thing" as something that's not available to them. It's something the previous generations participated in.


All that's true. Another issue is that young people who spent their teens and twenties "hooking up" with everything that walks are damaged to the point that they're incapable of forming a committed relationship. The saying that "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" is true, if they view sex as something as mundane as shopping for groceries then they're likely to cheat on you the first times they get pissed off at you, and as any married man knows they're pissed off at you half the time. The likelihood of being cheated on if you marry one of these hookup culture partners is extremely high, then you've got to decide if you'll put up with it and stay married or divorce them and lose most of your money and property.



Yes, Crow hunter. There are a huge number of people completely damaged and broken by the hook-up culture. But I believe healing is possible. For anyone and everyone.


That is absolute nonsense.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I find it sorta funny that a bunch of older men would have an opinion on the younger generation's sexual and marriage habits when they all brag endlessly about the sexual exploits of their past....and fall over each other to high five the 14 year old being screwed by the civics teacher.

Today's young people exist in the appropriate time.

Whats next? A home ownership thread?

Things change.

Maybe its a good trend. Fewer marriages equal fewer divorces.


Some jackleg working for the Catholics named O'Malley gonna tell me and mine whats up?


Uhh....no.





The majority of those passing judgement think the family court systems are perfectly fine.


Men in this country love to call other men deadbeats because a woman or a judge said so.

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Men in this country love to call other men deadbeats because a woman or a judge said so.


"Deadbeat dads."

LOL

Ranks right up there with MADD and the War on Drugs.


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper

It did. The source of the problem is in people's hearts and minds, not some pictures or laws. I don't blame the gun for violence either.


OT,

Laws create economic incentives that change behaviors. Let's use your example. Sure guns do not cause crime, but bad laws the prohibit gun ownership and self defense do cause higher crime rates. When criminals know they can take you stuff and there's nothing you can legally do about it, it happens more often. Same with Family court laws.

80% of divorces are filed by women. In general, it's not men that are leaving marriage, it's women. Why? A very large factor in all this is how the family court systems made it easy for them to take another persons future earnings and possessions.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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If marriage was easier to enter and painless to get out of.....there would be more successful marriages.


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