The China virus is making no sense.
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As more of the US population has been infected, and more people than ever are wearing a mask, and more people are getting the vaccine, why is the China virus picking up steam? Common sense tells me that herd immunity should of kicked in by now. This China virus stuff is not adding up or working out like it should be.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
[Re: TrueGrit]
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Just waiting on JoHo to “fix” it?
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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Putting aside speculation and flights of fancy....
Will state it again: it is the natural tendency for viruses like this one to become more contagious, and less pathogenic, over time. The rate of the change is largely dependent on the number of hosts it passes through.
Eventually, covid will either nearly, or completely, peter out. Time will tell, and something else could take its place, or i could be wrong and it persists in rare but still virulent form, but am betting on a season or three, myself. We’re scarcely at one season, now.
Is it modern-day’s self-absorbed culture that makes all believe the earth, and mankind, has never survived such a “new model” virus before?
Seen a few things, but it’s the 24Hr Campfire Classifieds that’ll make me break out in a cold damned sweat.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
[Re: TrueGrit]
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Not sure what you mean by adding up.
mRNA stuff is different than DNA
it codes faster with different mutations, which leads to new mutations, it is a living organism.
if the host provides a mechanism to prevent it from spreading, that strain sort of dies out.
at the same time there are other mutated strains that are not affected by that mechanism that go on infecting and probably more successful
The growth models that are used in previous epidemic models are usually sometype of non-linear model or if more current a logistic curve approach.
no doubt some of the folks in math modeling in biological systems are working with 3-5-7th order catastrophe models, with the big computers
If you have an opinion, it's on a bell curve--somewhere
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
[Re: sandcritter]
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Putting aside speculation and flights of fancy....
Will state it again: it is the natural tendency for viruses like this one to become more contagious, and less pathogenic, over time. The rate of the change is largely dependent on the number of hosts it passes through.
Eventually, covid will either nearly, or completely, peter out. Time will tell, and something else could take its place, or i could be wrong and it persists in rare but still virulent form, but am betting on a season or three, myself. We’re scarcely at one season, now.
Is it modern-day’s self-absorbed culture that makes all believe the earth, and mankind, has never survived such a “new model” virus before?
this
If you have an opinion, it's on a bell curve--somewhere
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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Just waiting on JoHo to “fix” it? This is probably it. The reporting sources are maxing out numbers so that the retard and whore will be able to show a dramatic reduction.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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because its application is being managed...
This wasn't an accident.... this is a plandemic...
One of my MOS's in the military was a 54 Echo....
for those not familiar with that MOS... Nuclear Biological and Chemical Warfare officer...
CV 19.... classic on a grand scale...
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
[Re: TrueGrit]
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It is normal in these sort of things for numbers to accelerate more and more before they crash. As more people get it, the spread increases until so many have resistance they virus can't find hosts. Then the numbers crash. Think of a graph that mimics a jet in a vertical climb. Up, up, up until it stalls, and turns over. Then, zoom! down.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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It's all crap, that's why.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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It's all crap, that's why. Yup, 400,000 people faking their deaths so far.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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Our approach, were we a society run by sane people, should have been to focus on treatment, avoidance, and prevention, instead of some idiotic, rushed to market, new approach to vaccination. The disease is over 99% non-lethal even under the worst conditions. With proper treatment, it's hardly worth talking about. We're doing who knows what to the human race with a rushed to market experimental vaccine that's not even a vaccine in the conventional sense, an approach to vaccination that was proven harmful already in long term animal studies that began in the middle 2000s, and therefore abandoned. There is certainly something not right at all about how this has been handled.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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Just waiting on JoHo to “fix” it? This is probably it. The reporting sources are maxing out numbers so that the retard and whore will be able to show a dramatic reduction. You KNOW they absolutely will take all the credit when the numbers crash. Eventhough the Trump admin set in motion the most remarkably speedy public health mechanisms in history, getting a vaccine out from zero to in arms in 10 months, he will get no credit.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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It's all crap, that's why. Yup, 400,000 people faking their deaths so far. Yeah you go right ahead and believe that bullshit. It's a free country...sorta.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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It is normal in these sort of things for numbers to accelerate more and more before they crash. As more people get it, the spread increases until so many have resistance they virus can't find hosts. Then the numbers crash. Think of a graph that mimics a jet in a vertical climb. Up, up, up until it stalls, and turns over. Then, zoom! down. I sure hope your right.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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At least nobody died from the flu.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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It's all crap, that's why. Yup, 400,000 people faking their deaths so far. How many died of the flu in the same time period?
"Our prayers are with the family of George Floyd, and our prayers are also with the family of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia. We have no tolerance for racism in America. We have no tolerance for violence inspired by racism."
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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It's all crap, that's why. Yup, 400,000 people faking their deaths so far. How many died of the flu in the same time period? 400,000. 🤣
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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Of that 400,000 that died, 90% had underlying health conditions.
They were going to die ANY WAY!
TOTAL LIES being fed to the public!
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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Putting aside speculation and flights of fancy....
Will state it again: it is the natural tendency for viruses like this one to become more contagious, and less pathogenic, over time. The rate of the change is largely dependent on the number of hosts it passes through.
Eventually, covid will either nearly, or completely, peter out. Time will tell, and something else could take its place, or i could be wrong and it persists in rare but still virulent form, but am betting on a season or three, myself. We’re scarcely at one season, now.
Is it modern-day’s self-absorbed culture that makes all believe the earth, and mankind, has never survived such a “new model” virus before?
It has not had a "season". It's been going on for a year.
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Re: The China virus is making no sense.
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because its application is being managed...
This wasn't an accident.... this is a plandemic...
One of my MOS's in the military was a 54 Echo....
for those not familiar with that MOS... Nuclear Biological and Chemical Warfare officer...
CV 19.... classic on a grand scale... We called it germ warfare in 1973. It was all speculative then. It's no longer speculative. I still think someone was playing with bugs and they escaped. I'm not sure if it was accidentally or intentional. But, the bugs lands on a mosquito, bats eat mosquitoes, people eat bats. If the Chinese would of been eating American pork (who the Chinese government boycotted) instead of bats would we be here today ? It's a hard lesson for the world to learn. kwg
It's about time you started tolerating my intolerance. For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR.
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