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Originally Posted by Leanwolf
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Movies are most often FOS when it comes to firearms realism.


Most writers, directors, actors, and producers know virtually nothing about firearms, other than they go "Bang!," and in real life, should be confiscated from the unwashed worker peasants. There are a few who are knowledgeable but damned few. That's the way it is in Hollywood.

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Wayne was said to be a real shooter.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Movies are most often FOS when it comes to firearms realism.


Most writers, directors, actors, and producers know virtually nothing about firearms, other than they go "Bang!," and in real life, should be confiscated from the unwashed worker peasants. There are a few who are knowledgeable but damned few. That's the way it is in Hollywood.

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Wayne was said to be a real shooter.


Lee Marvin and Steve McQueen both were decorated Marine war vets, and Marvin was a big hunter. But they don't make actors like that any more.

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I thought Steve was in the Navy. Got mesothelioma from working with asbestos on a ship.

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Originally Posted by test1328
One of the worst movies I've ever seen was Pekinpah's Billy the Kid. Now, Young Guns, was well done and entertaining. Estevez nailed it as Billy. The "actors" in Pekinpah's were terrible all the way around.


Peckinpah's movies were not about plot or anything like that; the violence and cruelty were the focus.


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I thought that dimes existed to determine the choke of a 12 gauge barrel.


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Originally Posted by gregintenn
Worst fugging movie I’ve ever seen. Save your time and money.


Wait, there’s a worse one out. ... “The Marksman”


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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Worst fugging movie I’ve ever seen. Save your time and money.


Wait, there’s a worse one out. ... “The Marksman”

Is that the one where they throw their arm to shoot around corners? I'm not kidding. It was hilarious.


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Movies are most often FOS when it comes to firearms realism.

Are you telling me Deathwish isn't realistic.Bad guys get shot with .32 s&w, and they fly back 5ft.


It would take at least a 38 Special for that. grin


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Hell I'd bet dimes work fine but then I'd prolly stick a dab of super glue between them. Mb


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Originally Posted by 19352012
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Worst fugging movie I’ve ever seen. Save your time and money.


Wait, there’s a worse one out. ... “The Marksman”

Is that the one where they throw their arm to shoot around corners? I'm not kidding. It was hilarious.


No it just came out, Liam Neeson as a Vietnam Veteran/Arizona rancher saving a Mexican kid from a Cartel, turns out he can beat up Cartel guys and Cops and everything.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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Worst fugging movie I’ve ever seen. Save your time and money.


Wait, there’s a worse one out. ... “The Marksman”

Is that the one where they throw their arm to shoot around corners? I'm not kidding. It was hilarious.


No it just came out, Liam Neeson as a Vietnam Veteran/Arizona rancher saving a Mexican kid from a Cartel, turns out he can beat up Cartel guys and Cops and everything.

Dont be dissin Aslan, buddy


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Originally Posted by MarineHawk
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Lee Marvin and Steve McQueen both were decorated Marine war vets, and Marvin was a big hunter. But they don't make actors like that any more.


Steve McQueen was in the Marines but was never in combat. Lee Marvin certainly was.

From McQueen's bio on imdb.com

" ... McQueen joined the Marine Corps at age 17 and worked as a tank driver and mechanic. He earned a commendation for rescuing five Marines during a training accident. According to military records released by the Pentagon in 2005, Marine Pfc. Steve McQueen was confined to base for 41 days and fined $90 for being absent without leave (AWOL) from Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. (Some sources indicate he was AWOL for as long as 21 days [3 weeks] but the exact amount of time he was AWOL is unconfirmed.) He avoided a dishonorable discharge and later took advantage of the GI Bill's education benefits to study at the Actors Studio in New York. ..."

EDIT: TRH, yes, John Wayne was a shooter and hunter. When I lived in L.A., I had a friend who used to hunt ducks and geese with him in northern Calif., in the Tulelake area. There was at that time, great duck and goose hunting there. I don't know how the hunting is there now. I think Wayne owned a lodge there.

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Thank you, Leanwolf. I had always thought that McQueen was in the Navy. I thought he caught mesothelioma working with asbestos aboard ship. Here is a little info from a Mesothelioma web site:

"It’s highly likely that McQueen’s first exposure to asbestos, however, was during his time in the U.S. Marine Corps from 1947–1950. Through his service, McQueen spent time working onboard naval ships and in the shipyards.

Service aboard military ships posed some of the greatest threat for asbestos exposure. Marines, sailors, and airmen made contact with the deadly material in nearly every area of these ships, from the boiler and engine rooms to the deck and sleeping quarters. Living and working in tight quarters with poor ventilation meant any disturbed asbestos fibers would be even more concentrated in the air."

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One dollar (in dimes) would be equivalent to $25 to $40 these days. I doubt anybody was loading up shells at $40 a shot back then.....

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McQueen was a Marine, of that I’m certain, pretty sure only Marvin saw combat though, was wounded on Saipan.

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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
I had always thought that McQueen was in the Navy.


Possibly you've watched The Sand Pebbles too many times.

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Originally Posted by RufusG
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I had always thought that McQueen was in the Navy.


Possibly you've watched The Sand Pebbles too many times.


Wait, what? Are you saying that wasn't actual footage of a real event?


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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Worst fugging movie I’ve ever seen. Save your time and money.


Wait, there’s a worse one out. ... “The Marksman”




I didn't think Hanks' movie was THAT bad. Helped fill a covid evening.


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