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I have hunted with and enjoyed the heck out of my old cheapo Knight wolverine for almost 20 years now. I only hunt when drawn for muzzleloader elk (twice in that time) and maybe Javelina every other year....
My 14 year old son shot it and decided that he needs to have it. How can I say no to the kid? (Especially if it means that I get to update my my set up.)

I have the chance to purchase either of these from friends that I trust:
My choices are:
Remington Genesis (unfired) my concerns are that this was only manufactured for a couple of years. I can get this pretty cheap.
T/C encore prohunter with .50 209 barrel: (again, unfired) I am leaning this way because of its versatility and resale value. This will cost me a bit more.

Thoughts?

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I killed a pile of deer with a wolverine. Finally up graded to a Encore. Been happy with it.

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I have the encore with the latest fluted barrel. Great in every way except I wish it was lighter. I would buy another in a heartbeat.

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Thanks, Gents!
I was leaning toward the encore and, for my needs, I think the extra coin will be well spent.

And yes, the wolverine is still a pretty good muzzleloader!

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I have no experience with either. Having said that, I'd buy the one I could get several extra breech plugs for.
The Genesis has a good reputation but has been out of production for a while now.
Did he buy extra consumables? If you get it cheap enough you could have some fun regardless!


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Played with a Genesis long enough to get it dialed in for someone. Okay gun, but the Encore is certainly better and more versatile. Accessories and parts are everywhere too, while the Genesis is an orphan.


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Back when Cabelas was closing out the Genesis for $79, members of my family bought a few. They killed a lot of deer with them. As said, they are OK but have been upgraded

It is my understanding that the Genesis was made for Remington by Traditions

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My Wolverine was a deer killin machine, but I sold it to a co-worker and got this ( tells ya how long ago )

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JMHO- I never buy anything with resale value
as a criterion. If I had to do that I'd never be
satisfied with anything I owned. It took me a
long time to figure that out. I rid myself of a
lot of my dust collectors and feel better for it

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I had zero probs w my Wolverine.
Buddy got a stainless camo one a couple yrs ago, used but pristine, for 100 bucks. But the 209 conversions were gone then.

They make em again now, or something similar. Not as cheap.

I liked em better than Encore MZs.

My issue was.....w a 4x scope it was not as much fun to use. It was simply a very ( too ) effective killing machine.


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My Wolverine used regular caps. Never had a problem with it going off.

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My brother has a tc pro hunter he's thinking about selling if you're interested.

SS, black stock version

Excellent condition

PM me if you are interested

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Originally Posted by Couesdeer
T/C encore prohunter with .50 209 barrel: (again, unfired) I am leaning this way because of its versatility and resale value. This will cost me a bit more.

Thoughts?


No choice in my mind - it's a better investment for holding value over time, especially if you decide to branch out with other calibers on the frame.

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Originally Posted by hookeye
I had zero probs w my Wolverine.
Buddy got a stainless camo one a couple yrs ago, used but pristine, for 100 bucks. But the 209 conversions were gone then.

They make em again now, or something similar. Not as cheap.

I liked em better than Encore MZs.

My issue was.....w a 4x scope it was not as much fun to use. It was simply a very ( too ) effective killing machine.



Killin’s the goal, ain’t it? By the time our ML season rolls around, the deer have been sliced, diced, and petrified for 2 1/2 months. Lucky to even see one. We do have a four-day Heritage season in early January for those who need a challenge: sidelocks and stickbows only. Only saw one other hunter during that, but scads of dog walkers and day hikers. Can't even pee against a tree in peace. Maybe I should start walking the trails with a stuffed Yorky to make the deer think I’m harmless.


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I've used an Encore for over 20 years and could not be happier with it. Accurate, reliable and easy to clean. I'm an old guy but have never had a problem with its weight. Switch the barrel to something cheap to shoot (I bought an MGM in 22 mag) and you can practice with it all spring and summer.

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I like Contenders better than Encores
The latter too blocky/ big for my taste.

By the time MZ season comes around Im too tired and its too cold. Used to hunt a lot more, in lots of bad weather.

Dunno if im lazy or just smarter all these years later LOL

Ill do bow early (recurve- Blackwidow) and then gun.
After that i kinda give up.

Late season, 2nd rut.....on my old spot some bruiser bucks. Worth the effort MZ if you have such a spot.

Current place is done by middle gun. Too much pressure. Properties broken up.

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Have never been a fan of switching barrels.
Rather own more rifles.

Did have 3 Contender frames set up at one time smile

Hell Is dont like switching barrels on shotguns.
Rather have anothrr shotgun

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Find a SS Savage ML2....buy once cry once. Best factory ML ever built IMO


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Originally Posted by Pappy348

Killin’s the goal, ain’t it?




Not necessarily,. it's certainly way down on the list of priorities for many. Enjoying how they hunt and what they hunt with far outweighing killing something.

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Just go ahead and use your 30/06! State got your ML license $$$$ and you’re home free!


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