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The Taiwanese and the South Koreans may have a say in what their neighbors do. Neither are pushovers and they both have been preparing for >50 years.


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Taiwan *may* have a nuke or a few

Not sure if I can believe it. But......dats de rumor!!

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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
China’s first move during Biden’s time will be to retake Taiwan.

Yep. No doubt about that. And I'll bet that the Iranians will take control of Middle Eastern shipping lanes. Biden won't do a damn thing to stop any of it while his foreign bank accounts get bigger.


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Israel wants to hit Iran in a real bad way. But they need our tankers for help midair refueling. so them will need help, who helps is the question. As for North Korea, I have no idea who would take on the task of cutting them off at the knees. I can bet that Biden will not opt to do it. Him being on the spine and nut doner list! Remember ,he is the one [bleep] tard that voted against the binladen raid!!!!! The USA will be viewed as a weak sister under biden. We have the tools but not the resolve.

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Originally Posted by johnw
Disagree

At best, North Korea is a serious tool/lever that China has used, and can use as a blunt force weapon.

At worst they are a rogue nuclear state.
The ROKs could crush them.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
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Disagree

At best, North Korea is a serious tool/lever that China has used, and can use as a blunt force weapon.

At worst they are a rogue nuclear state.
The ROKs could crush them.


But will the ROK crush them before they give a nuke to someone with the intent to deliver it to our door?

Agree that in a border war between them that the good guys would prevail.

The NORKs don't need to win or even fight a military battle to make a big splash.


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Question.... If South Korea hits the North Korea, how would the US, being a nato partner not get sucked into help out? We have a ton of troops at the border ,DMZ.

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When the battle re-commences there, we are in it and committed.


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
China’s first move during Biden’s time will be to retake Taiwan.


And Biden will retaliate by introducing a resolution in the UN to send them a nasty note. China will veto the resolution. The EU will shore up its relations with China (in fact they've already started) and no allies will ever trust us again.

It will take a long time for us to ever again be a credible superpower to balance China.


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I'm no strategist, but if I remember correctly, China is importing a schidt ton of oil, out of the Gulf. To maintain any extended naval and air operations is a thirsty business. Enter stage left, India, no friend of China, with considerable naval forces able to control the Strait of Malacca, or sink enough Chinese tankers to make it a loser in a war of attrition. I see China, pushing, annoying, harassing, everything short of war...I don't see them taking Taiwan yet. Even with one of the biggest clowns in the circus, surrounded by a cabinet of lesser clowns. China plays the long game, generations long, only moving the chess piece when victory is assured.


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35

The EU will shore up its relations with China (in fact they've already started) and no allies will ever trust us again.

It will take a long time for us to ever again be a credible superpower to balance China.

1. The EU is already doing that but it has nothing to do with us. It's just like they don't do the 2% of GNP towards defense. Western Europe has turned into a bunch of Chamberlains. It's cheaper in the short run to appease than it is to have a strong military.
2. We can balance China for the next twenty years. After that, all bets are off. We've built their economy, which gives them the money to build up their military. They won't be able to project power for at least 20 years, while we can.
3. We need to look more towards Japan and India. They know what a menace China is and are preparing for it. I'll add the Aussies into that group.
4. Russia lost too much population to be anything more than a regional power with the breakup of the USSR. If Europe can't handle them, that's their problem.

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